. >> now you get -- the vegetables get nice and carmelized and then you add, we have beer, apple ciderant to taste it first. >> no, i'll get it on the other side. >> apple cider and the chicken stock. >> a nice light beer, not too much. i think i'll put a little more salt for the vegetables, let them cover for a boil and then -- >> you leave it open. >> in the oven, just like that and it gets a wonderful color. you need to brace it periodically with the vegetables and then it cooks into something beautiful like this, a little sage. sage flavors, so when you present it, it looks beautiful. >> so easy. >> just boil down the leftovers. >> you do. you drain out the vegetables, so you have vegetables and main course all in one pot. >> in one pot. >> did you guys want to taste? >> we'll taste in a little bit. >> and the beef with the borollo, too, that sounds amazing. look at this. my goodness. >> this is the piece of the beef. >> okay. >> this is what it is, flat beef. people wonder what kind of meat -- this cooks beautifully, braises beautifully, and a piece of the shoulder meat, not expen