. >> carmen carrera say rising star in the fashion world. she has more than 200,000 followers on facebook and fans signed a petition trying to have heralded to the victoria's secret fashion show. what sets her apart from the other fashion models is she's transgendered. >> stephen: what? she can't be a runway model. not because she's transgender. because she 28. move it along, grandma. move it along! ( cheers and applause ) get some of them granny panties. pull them up to here. ( cheers and applause ). and it is a mind field for television hosts. i mean look at poor katie couric. i know she's a woman because i saw her colonoscopy. very-- no, no, no, you can tell-- very dainty did youd onem. she invited carmen carrera on her show but caught serious heat for asking a serious question? >> your private parts are different now, aren't they? >> i don't want to talk about it. it's really personal. they always kind of just make it about, another let's see your before. let's see your after. and now what, do your genitals look like? >> stephen: okay, l

. >> and her name is carmen carrera. >> she is transgendered knock t knockout. >> anline campaign to- >> victoria secret's newestane e gel. >> and she says, bring it on. >> and i knew when the show was going to be filmed i said in the back of my mind, that is not going to happen, but i decided to audition this year, and i have reached out to victoria's secret, and why not? why not, it is 2014. >> and the next guest could soon take the reins from -- >> and there is gisele. >> and meet the glamorous model that used to be a boy. >> and the private parts are different now, aren't they? >> they always kind of make it about, well, let's see the before and the after, and now, what do your genitals look like? it is not really giving transpeople the proper credit when you are working hard and not doing thing that a lot of other transgendered people have not been able to do. i have a crazy amount of creativity and i would rather be respected for that, rather than, oh, look at me put on makeup, and can you believe this? >> she definitely has a spark. we saw cindy crawford in her, and daisy fuen

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