anything can happen. >> rose: tell me why carmina burana to open carnegie hall. >> we had played carminaa in chicago, and we were asked to play this piece for the opening of, the coming season at carnegie hall. >> were you hay about that request? >> i love this piece. i respect this piece and i have great respect for karl orff that i met personally in 1980 when i conducted this piece in berlin with the berlin philharmonic and karl orff was even sick at that time, because he was old and ill, he came to the berlin and he wrote to me after the performance, in memory of this performance that i consider my second premiere. i think that this piece is generally seen also through commercials, the beginning has been abused, used, used in commercials, as a sort of funny piece or piece of -- full of joy, like an entertainment. >> rose: yes. >> but it is a very dramatic piece because it is a reflects the dark era, medieval era and being italian, you know, i am very familiar with this monastery or universities that are very old and carry this dark atmosphere, so the piece seems to exaggerate speaking