joining us on our booktv set now is for faster carol andersen. white rage, the unspoken truth of our racial divide. what do you mean by white rage? >> what they mean by white rage is not what we often think of as the clan of burning a cross. coming out of the supreme court of congress, and legislators. they are triggered by african-americans advancement towards civil rights and when you see those advancements, you'll see the policy backlash that comes to figuring out how to undercut that. that is the rage. it's cool, methodical, subtle, corrosive and absolutely destructive. >> have you seen it time and again in your research? >> yes, i track after the end of the civil war because here you have this moment where that comes from being property to being human beings, and then to citizens. and the resources with the backlash in the injured johnson, but also state legislators that undercut the advancement of african-americans back into a new type of slavery. i track it with the great migration. barack obama. >> let's go to 2008. what did you see in yo