carol baker got 30 years. andy baker never got a chance to meet. >> this is randy james. >> betty clings to her baby randy, her daughters and her husband, but it's hard, she said, missing her dad. >> this situation has made me felt like i'm not in control of anything in my life, and the one person who made me feel like i could be in control of it was him, and i can't call him to see if i'm handling this the right way or -- >> although i must tell you, as you're sitting here talking, you've been calling on him again and again. >> and in the end, with all her smiles and boundless good manners, randy baker's daughter is just as tough as he was. maybe tougher. maybe she just doesn't know it yet. >> that's all for this edition of "dateline." i'm natalie morales. thank you for watching. ng >>> first up on msnbc, the nation's capitol, under attack again, just three months after the deadly insurrection. >> new reporting surrounding the death of capitol police officer billy evans. an 18-year veteran of the force. after

baker, to testify after her. let's listen. >> and let's begin by having you state your full name, spelling each of your names. >> lindsey carolrning, dr. thomas. >> good morning. >> would you please tell us what kind of a doctor you are? >> i'm a forensic pathology it. >> and what is a forensic pathologist? >> forensic pathology is that branch of pathology, a branch of m medicine where medicine and law overlap. it could be anything with a medical and legal component, could be toxicology, in some cases it may involve living patients. but as i practice, it involves what is called medical legal death investigation. >> now does it involve taking care of patients in the clinical sense? >> not living patients, no. a forensic pathologist may be consulted to help with the evaluation and interpretation of injuries in a living patient. but not in a treatment or clinical sense. >> so most of your work then is done on deceased people? >> correct. >> any specific types of deaths? >> yes. the state statutes list the types of deaths that have to be reported to the medical examiner and briefly they tend to be unnatural deaths, so accidents,