joining me is our deputy director, carol bennett. >> supervisor cohen: hi, carol. >> next slide. thank you. it is our mission to empower parents to meet the needs of their children. while our services remain significant, how we deliver these services needs to keep pace with families today. the child support program understands that sometimes parents need help in meeting their obligations to provide economic support for their children. many parents responsible to pay child support are themselves struggling with poverty or just as involved and face significant barriers to gameful employment. the head winds some parents face in accomplishing their goals requires a concerted effort and child support must be part of that effort. with an innovative spirit, the department has structured its delivery service to one that is family centered, helping parents meet their economic commitments to their children, strengtheni strengthening ties. we recognize that custodial parents who suffered domestic violence should be able to pursue child support safely, that realistic orders that are in line

carol, stand by. i want to bring in our guy at the white house, geoff bennett, white house correspondent. f, what are you hearing about the latest development? you heard carol say there's been split, if you will, discussions about support for carol -- excuse me, but here with haspel, and where that conversation has worked out. you can see in the tweet, sarah huckabee sanders just yesterday, as you know, just tweeted this -- there's no one more qualified to be the first woman to lead the cia than 30-plus-year cia veteran gina haspel. any democrat who claims to support women's empowerment and our national security but opposes her nomination is a total hypocrite. what are you hearing? >> well, i've reached out to sarah sanders and to mark short, for that matter, both of them are the two white house officials mentioned in that reporting from carol and her colleagues at "the washington post" given that the story has just broken moments ago, i haven't heard back from them yet. when i first read the story, it immediately put that tweet you just read into context, that tweet that sarah sanders sen

. >> well, carol, before you came on the line and you were busy breaking yet another big story, we had rob bennett who represented bill clinton who knows a thing or two about this. there's no way i would tell my client to go into that meeting if you were the president of the united states. carol, thank you thank you for coming on. great bit of reporting. > thanks, chris. take care. >> so i also still have with me david lean hard from the "new york times" his latest piece is called "the truth is coming for frump," and harry litman. david, had you something you want to say. >> i was going to say, carol made the point mueller is not going to limit himself to this list of questions. mueller is not just a lawyer. he's a political animal. he's held political appointments been in washington a long time and understands how the game works. he understands he's at risk of getting fired by the president of the united states. we should assume that i'm not saying i have knowledge of this, but there is every reason to believe that mueller would want to hold back the most damaging information that he has found un