the republican establishment, the big names in the state -- strom thurmond, carol campbell -- he wasernor at the time -- they lined up with reagan in 1990, dole, george w. bush. they wired the state, they won the state it was decisive. something happened in south carolina in the obama era. and in 2012, the last competitive primary, republican primary in south carolina, newt gingrich won that state. he didn't just win that state, he crushed mitt romney in that state. that was one of mitt romney, the establishment candidate, one of his worst states. it was 41%-26%. south carolina really is the epicenter, one of the epicenters in this country for the tea party backlash against barack obama, but also against the republican establishment. so, relying on south carolina to play the role that lindsey graham is talking about there that it has played historically, i don't know that that works in 2016 anymore. >> yeah, steve, and i'm also wondering, and i had tim miller from the bush campaign on earlier in this program, that it's almost as though you're moving now the goal post. it's almost as