one of the people carol doder shares her recollection of san francisco and how she helped start the topplesra of san francisco. >>> herb cain takes us on a walking tour of san francisco. % sweetheart. we need to talk. i've seen your stunts online. i can explain... jumping a ramp in a shopping cart. so 2005. wait, what? and only 3 likes? honey, it's embarrassing. carol's son got over 12 million views on that dancing squirrel video. don't you want that? i...i suppose. now go make your dad and me proud. try something funny. [ male announcer ] now everyone's up to speed. get high speed internet for $14.95 a month for 12 months with a one year term. at&t. >>> tonight on a second look, we remember herb cain's san francisco. carol dodda, cain mentioned almost daily in his column. >> since when have you known herb? >> since 1964. >> has he ever come to see any of your shows. >> has he, yes he has. walter cronkite walked in with him one time. >> reporter: carol dodda is someone cain loved to talk about. she pushed the envelope of social acceptable. back in 2000, bob mackenzie told us the story of th