. >> carol, we did try to reach graham spanier at his home and we did not get an answer from the formere was seeking this exemption. he wanted penn state to be exempt from the records because he needed to protect the competitiveness of the university. he was concerned about the cost of compliance and a huge bureaucracy would be built to answer questions and open those public records. looking back on it now, it has a whole different look. carol? >> thanks, drew. >>> mike mcqueary's new e-mail not withstanding. heavily criticized for not taking immediate action to protect the child after apparently witnessing jerry sandusky's sexual assault. earlier on "american morning," we asked jeff garder why someone who sees something so horrific might not act. >> it's traumatic. you better believe it's traumatic to the child what is going on, and there's also, i'm not making excuses for this individual, mcqueary, but there's also a trauma in seeing something so horrific and heinous going on that you're frozen and you're not doing what you should be doing. >> and gardere says mcqueary has to live wit