he saw james and carol kane -- well, she was a songwriter first peer you know, paul simon and elton -r first. you know, paul simon and elton. they sang their own songs. before that, anybody sang their songs. net king cole didn't write a song, not that i know of. tavis: that is where the money is, you know. >> yeah, i mean, i don't know. sinatra did all right. doinga streisand isn't too bad. elvis did pretty good. [laughter] tavis: but if you can write and perform. >> i think that is somehow where things get a little diluted. because it works both ways. probably, if cole porter had to sing his own songs, maybe he wouldn't have had some a great songs. it is two different talents. a used to be more separate back in those days. and the songwriters would get in there and write songs and that was their craft and the singers would just knock them out. billie holiday didn't do too bad either. all these people, there were two different things. they didn't write those songs. she did write a couple very tavis: i find myself always -- she did write a couple. tavis: i find myself always coming bac

joining us live on the phone from the motor city is carol kane. >> welcome to as the world turns, motority style. >> we carry the debate as you moderated. poll showing that mike duggan is ahead in this race. what about benny napoleon who did receive the endorsement of john conyers. >> this is what i would call a historic unique mayoral race. this has been one of the more protracted and unique graces. get mike duggan the farmers see eo of a large hospital system and a former wayne county prosecutor. former detroit police chief in lawfuture enforcement. mike duggan who happens to be white dominated in the primary by 20 points. there are lawsuits galore, left and right during the primary and then napoleon got kicked off the ballot. he wants a right and campaign button. last week, it is interesting because so much is being focused on what the polls show and that is that mike is leaving. certainly, that is an important story, no national media is looking at that. -- a loty is that some of people are upset about the voting rights of citizens of detroit being taken away because the city was in