. >> my name is carol kinsley and i was like to think captain tom and the elementary school for hostings. i have again on the police commission for two years and has our president indicated, it is a very rewarding job and very enjoyable job and made more enjoyable by being out in the community and seeing folks like you show up and provide us with your input. thank you for being here tonight. i have been an attorney working in the financial district of san francisco for about 30 years. presently, my day job is as a business contract mediator. i have one son and he was born and raised in san francisco. , but aside from the police commission-related activities i do in my spare time, i serve on the board of directors and as an officer in the law center to prevent gun violence, a nonprofit organization founded around 20 years ago aimed at a national effort to reduce gun violence. thank you. >> [speaking cantonese] i'm a staff attorney at the asian law caucus just down the street, a nonprofit civil rights organization that provides legal services in a number of areas and i worked on criminal