joining me now from washington, carol lenig of the "washington post" who recounts the whole a.c.o.r.nepisode. thank you for joining us. tell us exactly how this started as these two people posing as a pimp and a prostitute? >> these two individuals who are james o'keefe and hanna jiles. they're 25 and 24 years old. so it seems as if they would be too young to pull off this kind of pretty amazing stunt to bring down a liberal political organization. but both of these have histories with the larger conservative movement that's been very concerned for a long time about a.c.o.r.n.'s operations and has claimed that the group's been engaged in voter registration fraud. long story short, two attractive and smart people had an idea, it really started with hanna, let's go undercover to a.c.o.r.n. offices where we have heard people are really undertrained and don't understand sort of what their mission is and what their organization is supposed to be doing in housing counseling. let's go and try to get them to help us in hiding our prostitution business that we allege we're going to have and se