joining us now is carol leonnig, national investigative reporter for "the washington post," she's also "zero fail i the rise and fall of the secret service." carol, thank you for being with us. you were the first person i thought of combing through that summary and reading about the secret service. what do you make about the fact there are 30 agents cited specifically in the report that are retaining private counsel, in lieu of taking on preagency representation? >> well, it seems in the course of your public servant role that you have a very specific job, you assess the security for the president, or the vice president, or family members. you provide protective intelligence about potential threats to the protectees of the secret service. it seems like in the course of that job, that nothing too controversial factually, or legally compromising is going to come up for you. and so, i understand why the committee highlights their concern about private counsel. the idea is why spend all that money, just answering basic questions about you doing your proper job which is pretty much supposed

carol leonnig, national investigative reporter for the washington post. you as always for your wisdom, carol. -- thanks, alex. >> after voting shortly before it released on trump's taxes, the house ways and means committee just released two reports about donald trump's taxes. nbc news national reporter sauteed kapoor has been reading the reports and it's going to talk about them. that's coming up next. 's coming up next. detect this: living with hiv, i learned i can stay undetectable with fewer medicines. that's why i switched to dovato. dovato is for some adults who are starting hiv-1 treatment or replacing their current hiv-1 regimen. detect this: no other complete hiv pill uses fewer medicines to help keep you undetectable than dovato. detect this: most hiv pills contain 3 or 4 medicines. dovato is as effective with just 2. research shows people who take hiv treatment as prescribed and get to and stay undetectable can no longer transmit hiv through sex. don't take dovato if you're allergic to its ingredients, or if you take dofetilide. taking dovato wi

>> i want to bring back from the washington post, carol leonnig. secret service, law enforcement, has written extraordinary books on it! as you are digesting all of this, carole, what more is coming to you. you know the secret service almost better than anyone i know. how humiliating is this? >> i think there are three -- three elements of the reports that are really difficult to swallow for sources of mine that i consider sort of patriots, secret service patriots. people who believe that they are nonpartisan, public servants who -- the people elect them, we just protect them. those three elements are as follows; one that very senior and key secret service officials tried to not recall important things that cassidy hutchinson was brave enough to lose all of her work friends, and all of her importance connected allies in the white house to tell. that's the first. the secret service has a history, and an important history of not wanting to lay bare of what the white right-hand shoulder of the presidents. their goal is to make sure the president feels

. >> joining us now, ryan nobles and carol leonnig.rt could release -- be released literally at any moment. but we've been saying that for nearly 24 hours. what's been the holdup? >> reporter: there's no one clear reason i think for this report not to have been released yet. part of it is just the logistics of the printing getting all wrapped up. it's close to 1,000 page report, maybe more than 1,000 pages. that requires quite a bit of time to get through. but also, i think we would be naive to think that they did not want the report to get caught up in the coverage of volodymyr zelenskyy's visit to washington yesterday. there's probably a bit of logistics, a bit of just the timing of everything that led to the report being delayed until today. it has no real tangible impact on the results of their findings. they had already adopted the report on monday. so it's basically just a process issue at this point. to your point, jose, they have already begun the process of releasing some of the transcripts. you point out, all of those individ

capitol correspondent ryan nobles, washington post white house reporter yasmeen abutaleb, and carol leonnig, let's will prize-winning investigative reporter, also the washington post. carol, you know i'm going to you first. you and i have been talking about this for months. trump's lawyers already signed a document back in june saying everything that they have has been returned. and now they found even more. what is going on here? >> you know, the timeline is not very good. prosecutors like to refer to these as that fact. our colleagues at the post, who are rock stars at figuring out each little detail have revealed again today in a breaking news scoop that items with classified markings, at least two of them, were found in a storage locker that was supposed to be a place where donald trump's personal effects were taken from the white house when he left office, when biden became president, and when he returned to palm beach. you said it first, stephanie. the presidents lawyers attested that they had returned, done a search of the, quote unquote, office of the former president donald trump,

carol leonnig is here with us from "the washington post." plus msnbc legal analyst barbara mcquade is here, arm fond remember u.s. attorney, now a law professor. and claire mccaskill is here, as well. kyle, take me through your reporting. >> sure, so, as you pointed out, the report is going to essentially track what we heard, you know, in the public hearings, it was a sort of seven-part plan the committee described led by donald trump in every way, in every aspect to both sow distrust in the results of the election, create this whole false claim that the election was fraudulent, as the sort of baseline, and to take actions from there, to pressure state governments, to pressure the justice department, to pressure his own haven't to try to get involved, to intervene, try to overturn the election on his behalf, based on that false claim of fraud. and so, i think the report will be somewhat familiar in that, if you watched the public hearings, but i think will add new details. they have 1,000 witness transcripts, people they've interviewed since

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