just want to say thank you captain ship ling that was great and secondly, i want to say, i think carol morgan's presentation was excellent, i couldn't have done it better i can't think of anybody who would have because she same came from the ground floor up and was able to present a full picture of what the operation is for us, it's our life's blood before it was blue and good it was red and white fleet. they have had the same location and have really positioned themselves to perform you know, the biggest ferry company short of the washington state ferry service and i think it's an accomplishment to be able to do that and along the road, we have become great partners, we have had some tough types and have been here during those tough times and i want to acknowledge bob macintosh because during those tough times he was there supporting us and doing whatever is necessary to survive the transition from the loss of the alcatraz. and going forward, it has been great that they got the w ta contract there is no company that i think could do a better job. i'm really proud to be able to stand here as yo

our next guest, carol roth went on piers morgan to hash out their differences face-to-face. >> what it is the interpretation of a lesson on the second amendment of the constitution which i think is being misused now to basically endorse everyone in america having an assault rifle. >> that is completely not true. if he's somebody who wanted to kill somebody, there are plenty of weapons, including a fist, a car, a brick, a bomb that can do it. >> and rather hit by a-- >> and joining us know the aforementioned carol roth. and all right, fierpiers morgan give his proper name, didn't treat you very well. >> this all extends from a twitter war that sort of went viral so when i went on his show they stacked the deck against me and wouldn't get me get a word in edge-wise, so it's hard to make your point if you're not able to talk. at the end of the day, stuart, all i was doing was sticking up for second amendment rights. i didn't write the second amendment, but it's been there for a very long time and i certainly don't interpret it, but i am a strong believer and a strong supporter in it. and

piers morgan said where exactly does it say that in the constitution? ms. roth, right next to the word musket. here is caroltseller of "the pure equation." this is great stuff. first of all, why did you take on piers morgan? >> well, larry, piers and i have a long history of going back and forth on things. and every once in a while, he says something and i just feel the need to educate him. and i am very passionate as many americans are about our second amendment rights, and so i was originally just trying to explain to him. i wasn't trying to be nasty. i was really trying to make him understand where this debate was coming from, and he backed me into a corner and so i came back with a musket. >> well, i think that musket thing was absolutely terrific. but i've got to ask you, i need some help here. i'm going on the piers morgan show tonight. we're going to talk about taxes and regulation spending. so i'm not going to tweet, carol. i'm actually going to be there signature across from him. what should i do? >> i think you'll be fine. piers kind of tends to go to the socialist side of things. he's from britai

carol. i unleashed earlier on the program against piers morgan and were you restrained.reciate that. >> now what, stuart? i'm starting a new party in in america, i'm calling it the common sense party. if you'd like to join me, this is my-- one of my first forays in the common sense party. stuart: no, i'm starting a party, immigrants who love america and are happy in america, that's my party. okay? >> how about a toga party. can we start that, too. stuart: don't get me started with that one. [laughter] >> carol ross, a brilliant discourse. >> thank you, stuart. stuart: new at 10, the federal budget flat-out out of control. it's a spending problem, not a revenue problem and that spending has surged under president obama. at the top of the hour, find out by how much. also, coming up new at 10, the latest and most critical read on the housing market. existing home sales right there at 10:00 precisely we'll report the numbers when they cross the wires for you. nicole, apple, when we checked pre-market, it was up, now it's -- the market is open. where is it. the stock is virtu