. >> we see the guys like carol o'connor and i just kind of bow because they're so great. said that carol o'connor was pretty difficult. >> well, carol was carrying a lot of responsibility. he was a white man playing a bigot in a time where it didn't happen before. >> and he wasn't a bigot? >> he wasn't. he worried a lot what was written for him. he was right some of the time and wrong a lot of the time. and those were the battles. but they were honest battles. and he was a glorious actor. >> i loved "all in the family." but you know what? you know what i really loved "maude," maybe it's because i'm a gay man. but i just loved "maude." >> i say in the book, i don't know if you finished it, "maude" represented a lot of me. that progressive, that liberal who wasn't altogether on up on everything she should. >> she had a good heart. >> she did. >> she didn't mean any harm. she may not have known. she said her piece and didn't mean no harm. >> she meant no harm. >> so what is your favorite part of this book? i lot of book. i also love that you're such a family man. i see lots