harris's close childhood friends, somebody who grew up in berkeley with her, and joining us now is carol porter, whose twitter nickname is, the other little girl on the bus. carol, welcome. you're going to have to explain how you became known as the other little girl on the bus. the story? >> hi, kristen. thank you for having me. kamala gave me that name. we were in iowa at a meeting, and we were talking, and she announced to everyone that i was the other little girl on the bus and that's where that came from. >> because you guys rode the bus together, right santa fe h te? tell me about that. >> we rode the bus together in berkeley. we rode the bus in berkeley during the '70s and they were desegregating the berkeley public schools. so, i actually met kamala in first grade at the bus stop at the corner of bancroft and browning, berkeley, california, waiting for the green duck, i think, was the name of our bus. and we bussed probably about, you know, 30 to 40 minutes from where we lived. that included stopping to pick up other kids along the way. and we did that every day, monday through friday.