so that could be the hope for apple. >> it's carol roth. as an apple shareholder, obviously i have been very focused on the services story because i really do believe they have 1.4 billion devices, there's a huge opportunity there, not only for their own services but for third party services. i know it's been a bright spot but why do you think that they have been slow to really put the pedal to the metal and bring in third party services and really monetize a very valuable ecosystem and customer base they have? >> great question. i think apple has historically shown they do like to take their time with entering any sort of new markets, new verticals, et cetera. in fact, tim cook and even steve jobs back in the day were vocal about this strategy of taking their time and not rushing into new ventures, new verticals, et cetera. i think the key difference that is a missing piece of the puzzle is that in 2019, we are living in an age of remarkably fast advancement and innovation in tech as a whole, and if apple's not going to speed up what they'

joining me, susan li, carol roth, john rayfield with global growth fears and uncertainty over china trade deal flaming thoughts today. the dow plummeting 300 points on news the justice department will continue to purse you the extradition of huawei ceo if she's not released. many believe the report last week that china deal was imminent. if you are watching "bulls & bears" on friday, you already know the administration was discounting those reports. roll tape. >> nothing has been resolved. no contract. i want to be an optimist about china trade. the president has indicated a certain amount of optimism about china trade. communicating with chinese president xi. some of these news reports are simply inaccurate. david: are we ever going to make a trade deal in china? >> i'm optimistic that we have a long way to get there. it seems like reports are saying they need to move on structural issues like intellectual property protection and transfer of technology. something china might massage into this march 1st deadline. cheney's appeal as we saw with the gd report and the china growth figures as

joining me now, "the new york times" best selling author carol roth and fortune senior editor and foxusiness contributor and often contributor to bulls and bears adam la shin sci. good to see you both. we should emphasize that huawei sells more phones than apple. it's number two in the world. but i'm wondering if it could survive all of this. people really wonder whether it's trustworthy anymore, don't they? >> it's a fascinating situation in the context of these ongoing trade talks because the accusations against huawei appear to be credible. on the face of them they have nothing to do with the trade tension of the united states and china. but of course everything has to do with the trade tension between the united states and china. so my point is i see a very difficult situation where if the united states continue to go after huawei, as it will and probably should, it being very difficult at the same time to delink that from the trade talks. david: just looking at huawei for a minute, it is certainly the largest by far telekom tellm company in china. but it goes right up to the top.

carol roth creator of future file legacy planning system. dan, i will start with you. you heard the senator and two votes being voted down today in the senate as expected. people are talking about zero growth in the first quarter, if we go on like this for the first three months of the year. where do you think this heads? >> well it has to eventually head to a resolution and i think the problem is, this send tirely political, susan, from the democratic side, the belief is, they feel they have the opinion polls at least among democrats behind them, they cannot sign on to anything in which the media will then immediately say, like, social media will say, within 15 seconds, trump won, pelosi lost. similarly the white house will not sign on to the opposite, pelosi wins, trump loses. it resolves around that $5 billion for something on the border. almost seems to absurd to talk about it this way but we're talking about vocabulary. trump has said you can have something that isn't a quote, unquote wall. the question will the democrats contribute $5.7 billion to barriers on the

also a fox news contributor and carol roth, future file legacy planning system. thanks for joining us, both of you guys. what do you think of market optimism on the idea they feel like we're moving closer to something on trade? i feel like we have this conversation before but the market loving it? >> they are, melissa. tell you what is interesting. the parameters of the deal, getting something worked out with china is great. but i think as edward lawrence mentioned enforcement is really the key. china, i mean they have begged, borrowed, stealed their way on us for quite some time. to think they will suddenly just become great citizens here is another question. so to me, especially interesting is the ip issue with companies that go over there, that get trade secrets stolen almost immediately. if that gets worked out, enforced, then i'm excited. melissa: carol, it is not all thievery in the sense we don't know about it. they do force you to hand over intellectual property as part of the deal. if you can stop that part of it where you're forced to acquiesce and say

joining me, susan li, carol roth, john rayfield with global growth fears and uncertainty over china tradeummeting 300 points on news the justice department will continue to purse you the extradition of huawei ceo if she's not released. many believe the report last week that china deal was imminent. if you are watching "bulls & bears" on friday, you already know the administration was discount

carol roth, and morgan ortegas, welcome to you both. big picture of the markets, carol, if you look what we've seen we were up five days in a row, a little lower today. but as gerri says we're setting up for earnings season like what gm had to say about its future we're in pretty good shape. how do you think we're setting up? >> i don't know that is a good indication. i think we have a path forward here but i think it's a narrow path. i think we have the fed piece settled. i think trade is still a big overhang. my concern is not what we're going to report for the last quarter, but it is the guidance for going forward. i think with trade still being a overhang i don't think companies have the incentive to put out that big guidance. short-term that could be more volatility but keeps the bar low for the longer term to beat that marker. connell: always a game on wall street but that's a fair point, morgan, carol makes, makes into the geopolitical concerns out there, "brexit" talking about later this hour. dysfunction politically in washingto

connell: susan, carol roth, former investment banker, creator of future file legacy system. paul after ersano. we'll start with you first. we'll talk about the jay powell comments susan referenced of the does he have a feel for the markets to borrow a phrase? what do you think? >> he was flanked by his wing men there. yellen and he had bernanke and i think he had a better sense what the markets wanted to hear. not that should be his mandate, boy, were investors happy to hear from him. not only on interest rates. the connell, the other interesting thing, they might take a different position with the balance sheet. we heard from him they were thinking about europe and strong dollar and some concerns investors have been airing last couple weeks. a lot of happiness from investors to hear from jay powell first time in long time. connell: this idea he will listen, be flexible. there is no preset path, paul. it is kind of interesting to investors, top two concerns that come up are china, we'll talk about in a few minutes and federal reserve. does the powell commentary today take th

carol roth, gary b. smith, robert wolf and we are joined by john meyer. to sugar coat it. this is the first q

. >> steve, it's carol roth. i have to say, this is the worst dealmaking game show i have probably ever seen. but keeping with the game themes, what kind of probabilities do you attach as of today to the different outcomes? do you have sort of a handicap on what probability goes with which potential outcome? >> yeah, i think the most likely situation is that parliament takes control of the process. it delays the exit date and pushes forward an alternative solution, which basically keeps the u.k. in the eu. in other words, brexit is basically overturned. that i think is the most likely. i would give it something like 60%. and then i would give something like 20% chance for a second referendum because they can't figure it out and they go back for another vote, and then 20% chance for leaving without a deal. but i think the most likely situation is that brexit doesn't happen. david: steve, last question, does this pounding defeat that theresa may suffered today, does that indicate that rather than worrying about wha