carol swain just wrote about the experience in the "wall street journal."he are a badge of pride for her. she joins us now. >> hello. >> tucker: carol swain, thanks for joining us tonight. >> my pleasure. >> tucker: when you saw the southern poverty law center was calling you apologist for white supremacy, what was your reaction to that? >> well, i was not surprised. i had criticized them first. and i was criticizing them because i saw that they were engaging in mission creep, that they had lost sight of their original purpose. and they had started going after conservatives. at the time, it was immigration restrictionists. so i wrote a blog, september of 2009, and about six weeks later, my photograph was in my local paper on the front page with a headline that i was an apologist for white supremacy. >> tucker: did your original piece say anything nice? >> they retaliated. >> tucker: it's unbelievable that they would do that. u i want to be absolutely sure i'm not missing anything. did you say anything nice about white supremacists in your piece. >> it had n

the great african-american scholar carol m. swain observed that demographic changes have really affected the strategic calculations of all major racial and ethnic groups in america. as she pointed out. census figures show that whites are moving away from high-immigration metropolitan areas. though states that have undergone on immigration inflow have experienced a native outflow. self-segregation is evident as whites tend to flee those areas that become more diverse. so, although overt expressions of white separatism are still t taboo in america, white separatism should be viewed in light of current political and demographic trends in america that could really have far-reaching effects. for instance, according to census bureau projections, by the year 2042 whites will no longer comprise a majority of the american population due in large part to increases in both the hispanic and asian segments of the population. this development is viewed in nearly apocalyptic terms in the white nationalist movement. more and more people in that move

carol swain who is an african-american professor at vanderbilt who was labeled a white smis sympathizerthis are reckless and irresponse cybil. labeling as does damage to their career and their safety. pete: you were targeted but not physically targeted yet. in 2012 the southern poverty law center put out a hate map which included the family research council and someone walked in there and shot up the lobby inciting that as part of the reason they were there. this targeting, what is it meant to do hannah, why do you think you are on this list and what are they trying to do to you? >> they are trying to silence me. as for years they have been trying to silence concerns. it's a bully tactic. what i find ironic of the groups they deem hateful there is not a single message of antifa, resist by any means necessary which are all domestic terror organizations that incite violence on college campuses. i work with college students across the nation campus reform they are bullied and attacked by groups like these. it's disheartening they are not put on this list but someone like me is put on this