from king of the hill came and these guys, john altschuler ann dave krinskyy and so they were carolina graddateehem a letter before they had shown up and asked if i could have lunch with them, and so they agreed. and we -- we had lunch. as well that they'd reaa and i had sent them a short film that i'd made. >> yeah. >> so they, they were like well, when you move to los3 angeles stay in touch with-s, ad a lot of the seeds. i, i was in la for about three or four years. and then over time i, i had sort of been writinngand, and eventually i guess there was an opening at king of the hill. and so they had encouraged me to submit a writing >> so they really meant it. they didn't just say keep in touch and they thought forget about this guy. they actually, they accually meant it. >> they, they meant it and they. >> yeah. >> .they were so great. jon and dave were so, so great in my career. because even once moved out to la they were resources for me. and if i wrote scripts they would read them and they'd give me notes. >> wow. >> and, and so they, so i mean i'm, i'm very grateful to a lot of peoppe. and