publicly for them to backtrack invested in mind that i need to listen to the cool kids like it caroline ashton was concerned. detroit i think a lot of people they'd be pretty worried because the hbo asking themselves who he says. in fact the we asked me to kiev. what exactly because that brings of my next question here about financial aid i think of the eu was drawn to financial aid promised ukraine. if the financial update has actually will materialize to anybody great degree heat we still missed a canny yesterday all he could come up with was one billion dollars in loan guarantees i suspect the reality is that the integrated reluctance to give money to the ukraine only extend until the situation that stabilizes and we know exactly who the people of color in control. and of course this kind of revelation is no good to help out. and how did this change the perception of developments in ukraine it is twenty one is talking about position on that one can already see that some days european governments of being is slowly trying to calm the temperature down. seems that they will shut you down to co

carolin roth is in brussels. we've gained very little detail of what would happen if russia doesn't move its troops out of the crimea. what was your take? >> you're absolutely right. yesterday, catherine ashtonaid she wants to see clear steps of a de-escalation come thursday. this as you pointed out eu leaders will be meeting here in brussels for their emergency summit. she was pressed by journalists during that news conference yesterday after what would trigger those sanctions. she said we want to see russian troops sent back to the barracks. she meant russian troops currently in crimea. if that doesn't happen by thursday, though, it is unclear whether the eu is actually going to go ahead with its sanctions. what could the sanctions look like? well, catherine achuthan mentioned yesterday that they could suspend talks on visa matters and she talked about targeted measures. it could include an arm embargo to russia. it could include freezing of assets of people that are related to the misappropriation of funds in the ukraine. now, julia, i know that you're going to be across the leader summit on thursday and you're our expert in all things eu. do you actually think that the eu would rachet up