. >> i was in tokyo when bill clinton said it was a fabulous deal a year ago with caroline kennedy. so he obviously is not to be believed on this. so wait a minute, is she really against the trade deal or would she support it in a lame duck and get it over with? >> right now running for president there's so many -- the urban vote, the black vote is, the black woman's vote is for her. black women are running families and black women are hurt when the economy is bad. >> trade is an issue? >> urban cities like baltimore, like philadelphia, who've been hurt when manufacturing is pulled away, and put in other country. so that is a problem for many people, so -- >> so the guy on the street corner to use -- the guy or woman on the street corner that pays some attention to politics thinks in terms of trade as the cause of the -- >> no he thinks the term is i don't have money in my pocket. it's not working for me. >> they think it's the trade issue. >> if they're looking for a job and there used to be a manufacturing company not far from their home, wow what happened here? it doesn't feel go