caroline lucas, first of all, are you happy with this?g on. many of us have been saying for yea rs many of us have been saying for years that the government should be looking at housing retrofit is an excellent way of creating jobs in every constituency, getting emissions down, getting fuel bills down. i think the worry is, is £3 million enough, and if you compare it with similar kinds of programmes in france and germany, it is a drop in the ocean compared with what they are spending. but crucially as well i think on the delivery mechanism there are real questions as to whether or not a voucher system will get us where we need to be. this has to happen fast, notjust for the jobs reasons, but because of the climate reasons too. just before i go to luke, can i pick you up on the concerns around vouchers? what do you mean, will it get us to where we need to be? what i mean is, will people, even if they are offered a voucher with money, still go to the trouble of clearing out their lofts to get this insulation put in? all of the evidence we h

but caroline lucas says it seems like a gesture targeted at london and the south—east housing market.you are talking about some of the political reaction. let‘s get reaction from the shadow chancellor, anneliese dodds. is this enough, much more would you want him to spend if you don‘t think is enough? would you want him to spend if you don't think is enough? well, i don't think it's necessarily about the quantum of expenditure, i think it's about where it is targeted. whether it will keep unemployment levels as low as they possibly can be. i am concerned that while we have seen a numberof concerned that while we have seen a number of measures from the chancellor today that we have been calling repeatedly for, so this kick—start calling repeatedly for, so this kick—sta rt scheme that calling repeatedly for, so this kick—start scheme that seems to be modelled on labour's future jobs fund, although we have seen those games put in place, there doesn't seem to be enough action to stop people from becoming unemployed in the first place. labour has consistently said those big economic suppor