caroline lucas, not economic necessity. caroline lucas. thank _ not economic necessity.we would talk about energy specifically, let's do that. i am joined by chief executive of national energy action, adam scorer. thank you for waiting to to us. there will still be some help on the energy front with energy bills, so your thoughts on what you heard in the autumn statement? you're right, there is some relief benefits have been updated in line with inflation, the targeted package for people eligible for means—tested benefits is there so there is a bit of relief, but it doesn't really disguise the fact, the hard fact that for millions of people of the cost of their energy bills will get much worse in april for people on low incomes, people are not eligible for means—tested benefits, there is no support for them really, the really vulnerable people, carers, families with young children, people with medical conditions which leave them particularly vulnerable to the cold, they don't get means—tested benefits for those circumstances. so it will be really tough. there's no gettin