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caroline lucas, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. now, you are the green politician who has enjoyed the closest proximity to power in british national politics as an elected mp over the last, what, 13 years or so, and now you've decided to walk away. why? because i want, ironically, to spend more time really focusing on climate and the environment. and right now, as the sole mp for my party, i have to be the expert on absolutely everything. i am the front bench spokesperson on everything. and that means that when you add that to two days a week constituency work easily, looking at everything from people's visas to their housing problems, important though those are, they are massively time—consuming at a time when i'm now at the point in my life when i really want to focus on climate and nature. two huge areas, i know, but at the minute i'm getting pulled in 100 different directions, so i've decided not to stand at the next election. i'm very hopeful that an excellent green candidate, sian berry, will take overfrom me in brighton. we'

you will have heard the green mp caroline lucas picking| the green mp caroline lucas picking this morningl be for the uk market. what do you think is the real picture? in market. what do you think is the real picture?— market. what do you think is the real picture? market. what do you think is the real icture? , ., ., , real picture? in terms of the gas, i could be used _ real picture? in terms of the gas, i could be used in _ real picture? in terms of the gas, i could be used in this _ real picture? in terms of the gas, i could be used in this country, and | could be used in this country, and we've also heard the type of crude oil, it can be refined in this country as well, and it did need to be exported for refining, the product from that could welcome back to this country, so i think it is a bit of a lack of understanding of how the oil and gas market works globally to make that argument. if we look at how much energy we import, i think it is hundred i7 import, i think it is hundred 17 billion last year, socially more than we can produce then this country, that is betterfor ourjobs and

caroline lucas, welcome to hardtalk. thank you.over the last, what, 13 years or so, and now you've decided to walk away.

caroline lucas, thank you for joining us from brighton.'re getting reports that separatist armenian forces in nagorno—karabakh have agreed a ceasefire proposed by russian peacekeepers. it comes after suffering a series of battlefield setbacks at the hands of the azerbaijani army. azerbaijan's military offensive in nagorno—karabakh is continuing for a second day as it tries to take full control of the disputed territory. thousands of people have been evacuated from villages near the front line. russia's ministry of defence have released this video and says around 2000 people have been made to safety. moscow has said it has offered humanitarian and medical assistance. this video filmed in the capital of the nagorno—karabakh region, shows smoke rising. the sound of shelling could also be heard in the distance. although it isn't clear which side is firing. armenia's government has warned of large scale in the country. the demonstrators say they were angered by the government's handling of the situation in nagorno—karabakh. so, before we go any

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she of course, caroline lucas.iving the green light to this new oil field, says caroline. lucas is morally obscene and the political reaction there it does kind of encapsulate, doesn't it, just how complex this issue is, especially on route to 2050 and net zero, making our way there. >> it might have to be a mix of green and traditional energies. >> absolutely will be. there's no might about it, ellie. look, when sunak in the first iteration of this policy earlier this summer i think it was the end of july in dictated that there will be new gas and oil drilling licences in the north sea. of course , the green lobby sea. of course, the green lobby freaked out about that. sunak made the point and i think it's quite point that even quite a telling point that even the climate change commission, quite a telling point that even the cl is ate change commission, quite a telling point that even the cl is ate lgovernment's ssion, which is the government's in—house watchdog of progress towards net zero, they have legal powers

the green party mp, caroline lucas tweeting in the last half an hour, accusing rishi sunak of being economicallye, historically inaccurate and environmentally boneheaded. so yes, he can arty see this is prompted to huge debate in british politics. thank you for bringing us the latest on that. life from westminster there. we will have more on that leader is the story develops. presidentjoe biden has urged world leaders to defend ukraine's integrity against what he referred to as russia's naked aggression. speaking at the united nations in new york — he said russia must not be allowed to "brutalise" ukraine without consequence, warning that this would jeopardise every country's independence. mr biden was addressing the un general assembly. he said the us and its allies would continue to stand by ukraine in its fight for freedom. his government is expected to announce new military aid for kyiv, to coincide with a visit to washington by his ukrainian counterpart, volodymyr zelensky. let's listening to president zelensky who is just taken to the stage at the un. thank you very much i welcome all who

caroline lucas. shows caroline lucas. it shows it's a cross—party matter.wants it be party pre and he wants it shut down. know what it shut down. and you know what it won't it's sinister. won't be it's sinister. >> it's so sinister. it's so dystopian to think that we are being watched our being watched by our own government people government and lots of people watching program and watching this program and listening, being watched. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> that unit to stifle debate. and might be all right with and you might be all right with a government in but a conservative government in but when are when labour gets in, are you going be they're going going to be okay? they're going to they'll be watching to be they'll be watching you. >> i think they are now. >> i think they are now. >> well, yeah, but imagine if keir there. you're keir starmer is in there. you're you're they're going be you're they're going to be watching you and watching everything you do and then suppress your then they'll suppress your tweets they it in tweets because they do it in coll

boilers and entrance that landlords want to face new energy efficiency regulations and let us go to caroline lucas you so much for your time and what is your reaction to this information that we have had. almost comlete information that we have had. almost complete disbelief, _ information that we have had. almost complete disbelief, to _ information that we have had. almost complete disbelief, to be _ information that we have had. almost complete disbelief, to be honest. - complete disbelief, to be honest. it's so economically illiterate as well as being a prime example of environmental vandalism. people are paying more than they need to endure the heat their homes because they are locked into more and more fossil fuels and they're going to be standards that are going to mean homes are going to have be more energy—efficient and landlords of to make those homes more energy—efficient and by describing those, what rishi sunak is going to do is basically consigned more people to form more for their energy bills and when it comes to investment in the green economy, there's going to as more businesses

the green party mp, caroline lucas has been giving me her reaction.y, sad and frustrated", particularly with uk prime minister, rishi sunak. frankly, he's trying to pull the wool over people's eyes. it is absolutely not the case that simply because oil and gas is extracted from the north sea, that automatically means it comes to the uk much less than it comes to the uk at lower prices. there is absolutely no automatic advantage to energy security or to people's purses and the price of oil and gas by having this extraction go ahead. but you've heard the prime minister and you've heard other ministers. they keep saying the same thing, that this is absolutely clearly about providing energy security. well, just because they keep saying it doesn't make it true. and many of us on the other side are pointing out, as indeed equinor themselves have pointed out, the oil company in question very helpfully sent a briefing to all mps, and in it they said that the vast majority of the oil that comes from this particular oil field will be for export. so there is abs

this was the green mp, caroline lucas reacting. it is so economically illiterate as well as being a prime example of environmental vandalism. peter saulljoins me now from westminster. this news breaking in the last few hours, what else is being considered?— hours, what else is being considered? ' . , considered? eight different policies are bein: considered? eight different policies are being looked _ considered? eight different policies are being looked at. _ considered? eight different policies are being looked at. none - considered? eight different policies are being looked at. none of- considered? eight different policies are being looked at. none of this . considered? eight different policies are being looked at. none of this is actually nailed down but we are expecting a speech from rishi sunak in the coming days. you have mentioned some of the key ones, they are keeping on the table, the idea of delaying that 2030 deadline on the ban on the sale of new diesel and petrol cars. similar timescale being pushed back for the intro

caroline lucas, absurd. caroline lucas, that is absurd. we and also it is the we need it.lso it is the hypocnsy we need it. and also it is the hypocrisy of people who are against this. they are perfect, happy all the stuff that happy to make all the stuff that we import. china is making all these emissions, making the stuff that we then import. if we make you know, they're saying that we shouldn't be putting out all these emissions all we're doing is exporting that that moral value abroad and other people are putting out these climate emissions on our behalf. it is utter hypocrisy. america has shown the way we should be fracking. we should be opening up all the getting all the coal out that is there. it is brilliant, absolutely brilliant . this is the . we haven't had this is the first brent's been first one. is it? brent's been going since 1975, producing massive energy for this country. >> briefly . this massive energy for this country. >> briefly. this is brilliant. >> briefly. this is brilliant. >> this this deal is going to create billions for hmrc and jobs and jobs.

caroline lucas, absurd. caroline lucas, that is absurd. we and also it is the we need it.lso it is the hypocnsy we need it. and also it is the hypocrisy of people who are against this. they are perfect, happy all the stuff that happy to make all the stuff that we import. china is making all these emissions, making the stuff that we then import. if we make you know, they're saying that we shouldn't be putting out all these emissions all we're doing is exporting that that moral value abroad and other people are putting out these climate emissions on our behalf. it is utter hypocrisy. america has shown the way we should be fracking. we should be opening up all the getting all the coal out that is there. it is brilliant, absolutely brilliant . this is the . we haven't had this is the first brent's been first one. is it? brent's been going since 1975, producing massive energy for this country. >> briefly . this massive energy for this country. >> briefly. this is brilliant. >> briefly. this is brilliant. >> this this deal is going to create billions for hmrc and jobs and jobs.

for more on what to expect, we are joined by caroline lucas, director of the coalition of kaiser permanentons. and jerald holts joins us, as well. caroline, tell us about the staffing crisis you are experiencing. >> thank you so much, kelly. so we have been raising the alarm as frontline health care workers about the staffing crisis now for years. we are really concerned about the impacts to not just worker safety, but also patient care of continuely working short. and kaiser executives are not showing up with the urgency needed to address this crisis. >> as i read here, patients are seeing -- these are mostly hospital patients, wait times for phone responses, room assignments are at dangerous levels. kaiser wants to raise premium 15% and providing less care. do i have that right? >> you nailed it. we're really concerned about a health care system that is showing up in a way that undermines the staffing levels needed to deliver the care that we count on. >> by the way, 75,000 workers out of 85,000 may walk out, is that because the 10,000 are critical? i'm not saying that the other workers

. obscene, says caroline lucas. quite clever politics because it really corners the snp . hamza yusuf corners the snp. hamza yusuf says he wants to make aberdeen the energy capital of europe, of course, into the net zero capital of the world. a lot of voters on that east coast don't like that. a lot of the best jobs in scotland are in the oil and gas industry. and then interestingly also this puts labour corner because labour in a corner because you've got, you know, gary smith , who runs the a very , who runs the gmb, a very astute leader of britain's third biggest union. he absolutely he backs new oil fields. it's loads ofjobs backs new oil fields. it's loads of jobs for the gmb , lots of of jobs for the gmb, lots of jobs. and he makes the point that actually it's more climate friendly. the uk must be honest about where we're going to get the gas we need to take to us 2050 and beyond, says gary smith, taking responsibility for more of our own gas supply or support both support good union jobs. both directly wider

green party mp caroline lucas says today's news is morally obscene and her party has described it as. so was giving has described it as a climate crime . so was giving approval to crime. so was giving approval to the rosebank project the right decision ? to debate this, i am decision? to debate this, i am joined by senior meteorologist at british weather services, jim dale and the director of the global warming policy foundation , benny benny, thank you very much. both of you. benny, i'll start with you and morally start with you and is it morally obscene ? obscene? >> well, i wouldn't use that kind of language in it's a it's a decision of political realism . it's clear that the uk will need oil and gas for decades to come . even the climate change come. even the climate change committee has acknowledged that much. so the only question is whether we use domestic oil and gas or whether we import it from other parts of the world. and there is a more general rollback of a lot of net zero utopian plants in play. we've seen in rishi sunak rolling back, delaying a few net zero targets and

you can say a target is in l place while dismantling the methods of getting there, as caroline lucas place on paper but rishi — target is in place on paper but rishi sunak seems to be doing everything he can to slow progress to getting — everything he can to slow progress to getting there and the problem with that — to getting there and the problem with that decision is not only is it bad for— with that decision is not only is it bad for the — with that decision is not only is it bad for the climate, the economy, 'obs bad for the climate, the economy, jobs and _ bad for the climate, the economy, jobs and our— bad for the climate, the economy, jobs and our health, it's also going to cost— jobs and our health, it's also going to cost the — jobs and our health, it's also going to cost the government more in the lon- to cost the government more in the long run— to cost the government more in the long run and — to cost the government more in the long run and that's notjust me on the green — long run and that's notjust me on the green party saying that, that's the green party saying that,

funny that and green party mp caroline lucas.egan to save the planet ? go vegan to save the planet? well, to thrash this out, we are joined by former tory mp and chair of the environment, food and rural affairs neil parish. morning neil and senior environment campaign for viva vegan campaign training charity jasmine clark, jasmine , let me jasmine clark, jasmine, let me come to you first. make the case, please, as to why the universities should not be feeding burgers to students who need protein for their brains . need protein for their brains. >> well , to start off, i'll just >> well, to start off, i'll just say that demand for meat, dairy, fish and eggs is a leading cause of the climate crisis and is the driver of global wildlife extinction. so adopting a vegan diet has been proven to the single biggest thing we can all do to reduce our impact on the planet. and if we're thinking about how we're going to build sustainable future, where we can all survive the climate crisis is threatening rival. we need to look at how . we towa

think like you know, you think yesterday know to hear yesterday you know to hear people like caroline lucasyou safa useless as we call him here. yeah. hear them screaming . you yeah. hear them screaming. you think it was the end of the world? ross clark, a very good writer, said you'd think that sunak could kick crutches sunak could kick the crutches away from army of old women. away from an army of old women. yeah what he actually done? yeah what had he actually done? oh, announced a that was oh, he announced a deal that was going actually give this going to actually give this country security because we are legally obliged meet net zero legally obliged to meet net zero by 2050. >> thanks to theresa may we can change the law. >> thanks to theresa may we can cha does he law. >> thanks to theresa may we can cha does this rw. >> thanks to theresa may we can cha does this fit within that? >> does this fit within that? >> does this fit within that? >> yes, because as i'll tell you what, the lights will be out this winter and now they're already probably already saying they probably won't becaus

other signatories include chris packham and the green party mp caroline lucas.universities go vegan in order to save the planet . to save the planet. >> okay, let's debate this now with jennifer white. jennifer is a senior media and communications manager. jennheni communications manager. jennifer, i never know if it's peta or peta . peta or peta. >> it's peter. peta. >> it's peter. peta. >> okay, like like blue peter. >> okay, like like blue peter. >> yeah, like the name. >> yeah, like the name. >> yeah. okay >> yeah. okay >> and there beside her is gareth wyn jones. gareth is a sheep farmer and are you you do that in wales? gareth. what sort of sheep do you have ? of sheep do you have? >> we have beef sheep. um, and i grow a lot of my own vegetables as well. and my family's been on this farm for 375 years. yeah. so good morning. what are that? >> oh , is that your milk there? >> oh, is that your milk there? >> oh, is that your milk there? >> it's my neighbour's milk that's shipped here every two days. local, seasonal, sustainable food at its best. >> do you kn