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i'm a lifelong south carolinian. i am a descendant of jefferson davis, okay?t does not matter. it's not about jenny horn! it's about the people of south carolina who have demanded that this symbol of hate come off of the state house grounds! >> jenny horn we should say was at the funeral of senator pinckney, and you could see that she felt very strongly obviously. i was not -- i was a reporting in 2000 when the flag was taken down from the state house dome there in south carolina and it was pretty much a republican-democrat divide at that point. did it take this tragedy to change minds? >> yes, i did. and sadly so. it took the murder of nine people, and it really put a face on the symbols from the 19th century that have essentially transformed to the mascots, almost of groups like the white citizens council, and the kkk. >> when did that happen? >> you know, that happened in -- so the kind of monument situation we're talking about earlier, started to happen in southern announce the 1920s, 1930s, primarily by white southern women of means. middle class, upper c
i'm a lifelong south carolinian. i am a descendant of jefferson davis, okay?t does not matter. it's not about jenny horn! it's about the people of south carolina who have demanded that this symbol of hate come off of the state house grounds! >> jenny horn we should say was at the funeral of senator pinckney, and you could see that she felt very strongly obviously. i was not -- i was a reporting in 2000 when the flag was taken down from the state house dome there in south carolina and it...
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for everything he is bothered as a 19th century carolinian, as an american. he penned a letter to his sister and he asked william bayless dixon, captain harris -- the captain said to the private please see this returns to my little sister there in pendleton with all of her possessions with all of my possessions. he came on that furlough, as i said in 1862, and he made that visit. he made that acquaintance. and after the war, he married that girl. because in that letter from captain harris to young ms. harris was, this war will be cruel and awful. there will be much flour of youth lost in the struggle. -- flower of youth lost in the struggle. the bearer of my commands i -- the bear of my letter i commend to you. i trust that you will be wanted in marriage. he was commending a stranger to his history. william bayless dixon and ms. handy harris saw there many children and -- their many children and grandchildren. and the only common denominator that i can judge them by is that they love god more than themselves. on both lines always back into the colonial 18th-c
for everything he is bothered as a 19th century carolinian, as an american. he penned a letter to his sister and he asked william bayless dixon, captain harris -- the captain said to the private please see this returns to my little sister there in pendleton with all of her possessions with all of my possessions. he came on that furlough, as i said in 1862, and he made that visit. he made that acquaintance. and after the war, he married that girl. because in that letter from captain harris to...
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there were i believe, 22,000 south carolinians killed in that particular war. there were battles that come up called the bloody angle which was at appomatix. i won't get into all the battles, but this particular battle flag was carried in most of them. and, again, as i said, i'm asking simply for the bronze plaque that mimics another bronze that's currently on the state house grounds. with that, mr. speaker i will relinquish the podium. >> pending question is the adoption of amendment 30. yes, sir. mr. white is recognized to speak on the amendment. representative white. >> thank you, mr. speaker. i appreciate the efforts of my good friend, mike pitts. but i really want to sit at my desk. i don't get up here and speak much. i've gone around. i've spoke to ms. cobb-hunter and others. and after the original vote a couple weeks ago from the anderson delegation talking about would we be discussing this issue but we come back and discuss it or not, and we -- i voted to the point of, let some time pass. ms. cobb-hunter, she discussed that and she says strike while the
there were i believe, 22,000 south carolinians killed in that particular war. there were battles that come up called the bloody angle which was at appomatix. i won't get into all the battles, but this particular battle flag was carried in most of them. and, again, as i said, i'm asking simply for the bronze plaque that mimics another bronze that's currently on the state house grounds. with that, mr. speaker i will relinquish the podium. >> pending question is the adoption of amendment 30....
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john girardeau labored with a fervency of spirit and the zeal for all of carolinians, for all carolinians regardless of race or creed. this individual, regardless of the government at the time regardless of public sentiment at the time, chose to drive public sentiment. he chose to evangelize the world . he chose to share love with all his neighbors. i will commend him to you for your own study if you so choose. suffice it to say prior to the outbreak of the war between the states johhn l. -- john l. girardeau was one of the most beloved pastoral figures in the church of the low country. he was presbyterian, but he evangelized as if he was methodist. he was in beaufort district, he was in charleston. where was he? where was he? he was with free and slave. he was with free and slave. he was with human -- human planter and farmer. -- yeoman planter and farmer. despite the circumstances of society, he was ministering the things that transcended. i mention the historical context, because the historical context of this matter i don't believe, can be rightfully discounted. i know much of this de
john girardeau labored with a fervency of spirit and the zeal for all of carolinians, for all carolinians regardless of race or creed. this individual, regardless of the government at the time regardless of public sentiment at the time, chose to drive public sentiment. he chose to evangelize the world . he chose to share love with all his neighbors. i will commend him to you for your own study if you so choose. suffice it to say prior to the outbreak of the war between the states johhn l. --...
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. >> i believe the majority of south carolinians would like to see it up and i believe i'm speaking for the majority of south carolinians that it alike to move that with a vote. >> the flag has become a flashpoint since the killing of nine people last month during a bible stayed at emanuel a.m.e. church. dillon roof, the gunman had been photographed bran dishing the flag. during the debate. john scott argued the. he was with the people against the symbol. >> it's time that we change. >> the debate spilled on to the lawn as flag supporters clashed with opponents. >> first of awful it wasn't a civil war. you've been brainwashed to call it a civil war. >> a slave is one that's brainwashed. >> take the smack in the face down. it's not about that now it's about the love and harmony right. >> the senate will volt tuesday then it goes to the statehouse where accounts by the local newspaper suggests it should also pass. >> this bill in the senate needs two hurds of the senate to vote on it to pass it, and judging from what we saw yesterday, the voting we saw yesterday, that should, it should ha
. >> i believe the majority of south carolinians would like to see it up and i believe i'm speaking for the majority of south carolinians that it alike to move that with a vote. >> the flag has become a flashpoint since the killing of nine people last month during a bible stayed at emanuel a.m.e. church. dillon roof, the gunman had been photographed bran dishing the flag. during the debate. john scott argued the. he was with the people against the symbol. >> it's time that we...
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i was wondering if you spoke to some members of the south are linnean -- south carolinians governmentdo you think it has been a soul-searching moment for those members? nick: i -- after listening to the debate last night, 13 hours long, you heard many people say they really searched their souls, they looked again at the history, the sensibilities, the racial sensibilities that have surrounded this flag and they changed their mind. it seems more a case of changed minds, then people -- minds than people having the courage -- governor nikki haley has been under a lot of pressure from the business community for a long time. this has been bad for business in south carolina. they will be welcoming this move. african-americans welcome this move. they regarded as a moment perhaps of atonement, almost. katty: thank you very much. the office in charge of u.s. government personnel has said that it previously disclosed security breach is far worse than initially thought. a staggering 21 million people have had their sensitive information stolen. the initial figure was around four million. for mor
i was wondering if you spoke to some members of the south are linnean -- south carolinians governmentdo you think it has been a soul-searching moment for those members? nick: i -- after listening to the debate last night, 13 hours long, you heard many people say they really searched their souls, they looked again at the history, the sensibilities, the racial sensibilities that have surrounded this flag and they changed their mind. it seems more a case of changed minds, then people -- minds than...
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not only for south carolinians but for all americans because now we are beginning to do what's right for people of all races here in this country. >> it strikes me that you thought that maybe her speech was pivotal in getting this bill passed. it did end up passing with more than two-thirds majority but it was a bit of a fight with some 68 amendments that were proposed. does this now set the stage to say, you know, we're united more than divided and perhaps could influence others on a national level? >> well i think representative horne showed that people can cross aisles to do what's right for not only just one segment of the community but for all people and i'm just so proud of my colleague. i'm at a loss for words because this day is major for us here in south carolina. i have been elected for over 15 years, and this is one of the most proudest moments that i can say of my elected career and so i am extremely excited about what south carolina has done. i spoke last night being ashame ofashamed of being a south carolinian because of the amendment and today i wake up proud to be a s
not only for south carolinians but for all americans because now we are beginning to do what's right for people of all races here in this country. >> it strikes me that you thought that maybe her speech was pivotal in getting this bill passed. it did end up passing with more than two-thirds majority but it was a bit of a fight with some 68 amendments that were proposed. does this now set the stage to say, you know, we're united more than divided and perhaps could influence others on a...
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to all south carolinians as does the flag of our state and the flag of our country. this is a new day for not only south carolina but for the south. how do you feel? >> well, and for our country. i'm so happy. i personally worked on this issue a long time. i led a march, walked 120 miles from charleston to seek to bring the flag down from the dome which we did 15 years ago, and i think that what you have is is first of all the wonderful response to a hateful act of racial bigotry. what happened? the people of our community in charleston came together in love and the people of south carolina through their governor, governor haley has done a wonderful job and the legislature acted to remove a symbol of hate from our state house grounds. a flag that had been appropriated by hate groups for a long time. it's gone. and it's like saying to the families, you know, we know now that this was injurious and insulting to you and to african-americans, and it's gone. it's a great day. it really is. >> i have heard people say, and i think rightly so because we tend to think that th
to all south carolinians as does the flag of our state and the flag of our country. this is a new day for not only south carolina but for the south. how do you feel? >> well, and for our country. i'm so happy. i personally worked on this issue a long time. i led a march, walked 120 miles from charleston to seek to bring the flag down from the dome which we did 15 years ago, and i think that what you have is is first of all the wonderful response to a hateful act of racial bigotry. what...
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i believe the majority of south carolinians would like to see it up and i believe i'm speaking for a majority of south carolinian, but i will prove that with a vote and i don't think doing that makes us any less of a republic, but it makes us more susceptible to the views of the people. >> senator you probably didn't know this but did you know that when i first heard about your proposal to have a referendum i have some concerns about that understanding -- >> debate from the south carolina senate yesterday and now we bring you live coverage of debate as it continues into a second day on the same issue, a final vote on this item could come today. >>> the senate and guests come to order and please remain standing while we are led by the chaplain and followed by the pledge of allegiance. >> thank you. the prophet ezekiel declares you are my sheep, the sheep of my pasture, and i am the lord god says the lord god from ezekiel chapter 34 verse 31. let us join our hearts in prayer. holy god, how comforting it is to be reminded that you are our shepard and that each staff member and all of us
i believe the majority of south carolinians would like to see it up and i believe i'm speaking for a majority of south carolinian, but i will prove that with a vote and i don't think doing that makes us any less of a republic, but it makes us more susceptible to the views of the people. >> senator you probably didn't know this but did you know that when i first heard about your proposal to have a referendum i have some concerns about that understanding -- >> debate from the south...
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. >> hum, diane westabrook joins us now from columbia, section and you met with several south carolinians today. and what do they have to say to you some. >> well, tony, we went to abbeville, south carolina today, which is 100 miles west of columbia, and this is where south carolinians planned to secede from the union in 1860. so the history is a big part of the culture in abbeville. and there's a real -- >> that's all it means, i don't think that people look at it as a sign of racism. and i don't think that it should be taken down because of that. >> i always thought it was racist, personally. but i try to deal with it. >> and one man i spoke to in abbeville, he said that if they try to take it down, you'll be hearing from him and that's why you see so much debate going on in the house >> so diane, what do we know about governor hilly's talk with the house of representatives today? >> we don't know much about what went on there. she was behind closed doors meeting with gop leaders in a caucus meeting and she has been promoting a clean bill, and she doesn't want any amendments attached to
. >> hum, diane westabrook joins us now from columbia, section and you met with several south carolinians today. and what do they have to say to you some. >> well, tony, we went to abbeville, south carolina today, which is 100 miles west of columbia, and this is where south carolinians planned to secede from the union in 1860. so the history is a big part of the culture in abbeville. and there's a real -- >> that's all it means, i don't think that people look at it as a sign...
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and i am so proud to be a south carolinian and proud to be a member of the house of representatives today it is amazing to see your emotion and so tee the flag flying over your left shoulder. as we talk to you, when will the flag come down? >> i believe it will come down tomorrow tomorrow. i know that the governor is working to get this bill signed as quickly as possible. she has assured as the house republicans talk that the flag will come down in a very dignified manner. and it will come down in a -- in a ceremonial manner. and the south carolina general assembly will provide for the removal of the flag to the south carolina state museum. >> representative horne, it took 13 hours, we understand of this contentious debate. and it seemed like at times, i'm sure you can speak to this it was not going to happen. when you got up there and made your plea did you feel like your cause of bringing it down was lost? >> well, i'll admit, i felt like we were losing the battle. it was -- it was a time of great reflection and a great introspection. and i felt like it needed -- someone needed to chang
and i am so proud to be a south carolinian and proud to be a member of the house of representatives today it is amazing to see your emotion and so tee the flag flying over your left shoulder. as we talk to you, when will the flag come down? >> i believe it will come down tomorrow tomorrow. i know that the governor is working to get this bill signed as quickly as possible. she has assured as the house republicans talk that the flag will come down in a very dignified manner. and it will...
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ifd6a lifelong south carolinian i'm a descendent of jefferson davis. okay? but that does not matter. it's not about jenny horne. it's about the people of south carolina who have demanded that this symbol of hate come off of the state house grounds. and i will tell you i do know, and i have it on good authority the world is watching this debate, and there is an economic development prospect in dorchester county that is in jeopardy because we refuse to act. we need to follow the example of the senate, remove this flag, and do it today. because this issue is not getting any better with age. thank you. [applause] >> south carolina's state representative jenny horne. last night in the state house. south carolina's republican governor nikki haley is set to sign the bill in 40 minute. so what happened, join thousand? >> reporter: the bill that was passed last night stipulate the confederate flag will be removed from the state house grounds within 24 ours of the governor signing it. nikki i haley's office announcing a special ceremony has been scheduled for 10:00 to
ifd6a lifelong south carolinian i'm a descendent of jefferson davis. okay? but that does not matter. it's not about jenny horne. it's about the people of south carolina who have demanded that this symbol of hate come off of the state house grounds. and i will tell you i do know, and i have it on good authority the world is watching this debate, and there is an economic development prospect in dorchester county that is in jeopardy because we refuse to act. we need to follow the example of the...
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there are many white south carolinians and many black south carolinians that see it as something that'sme has come. the war ended 150 years ago. it took us 150 years to take down the battle flag of that war, a war over slavery. last night, a member of the south carolina house read south carolina's articles of secession where slavery is mentioned multiple times. it's not lost to anyone. at least it should not be that the flag should have come down 150 years ago. robert e. lee said furl the flag. confederate generals said, furl it and leave it down. what i would like to see now, the lieutenant governor is going to sign this at any moment. joy talked about how governor haley will sign it probably this afternoon. the legislation mandates that it's taken down within 24 hours. it can come down at any time after governor haley signs that legislation. but it should be taken down. and i'm of the school of thought that that flagpole should stay there forever without any flag on it to remind all americans that's a bloody bloody part of our past and we have to move forward going forward. the flag h
there are many white south carolinians and many black south carolinians that see it as something that'sme has come. the war ended 150 years ago. it took us 150 years to take down the battle flag of that war, a war over slavery. last night, a member of the south carolina house read south carolina's articles of secession where slavery is mentioned multiple times. it's not lost to anyone. at least it should not be that the flag should have come down 150 years ago. robert e. lee said furl the flag....
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away from those issues that have divided us let us find common ground to take care of those south carolinians who really need to do a lot of good things for. >> all right. state senator john escort into khari sellers, former state representative and cnn contributor, thank you both. >>> we'll have a lot more later. >>> but let's turn to other national news. u.s. officials admitting just how close terrorists came to striking inside the u.s. some attacks were apparently thwarted at the very last minute. that story is next. it takes a lot of work... to run this business. i'm on the move all day long... and sometimes, i just don't eat the way i should. so i drink boost to get the nutrition that i'm missing. boost complete nutritional drink has 26 essential vitamins and minerals including calcium and vitamin d to support strong bones and 10 grams of protein to help maintain muscle. all with a great taste. i don't plan on slowing down any time soon. stay strong. stay active with boost. now try new boost® compact and 100 calories. this is my body of proof. proof of less joint pain. and clearer skin.
away from those issues that have divided us let us find common ground to take care of those south carolinians who really need to do a lot of good things for. >> all right. state senator john escort into khari sellers, former state representative and cnn contributor, thank you both. >>> we'll have a lot more later. >>> but let's turn to other national news. u.s. officials admitting just how close terrorists came to striking inside the u.s. some attacks were apparently...
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it's not -- it doesn't make me feel good about being a south carolinian.'ve never been proud to be a south carolinian until this past week, because i see how great people are in charleston. they're really trying to fight for love. and i just want -- i don't want my children to have to grow up in south carolina and see that flag that represents so much turmoil for african americans. and i understand people want to say it's not a race thing, but to me it is. >> flag for the americans who died! flag for the americans who died! >> my name is monifa lemons. what that flag means to me is -- we're standing on a street right now that if you cross over that bridge, right? you know not to be there at night. if i cross over that bridge and i drive into a yard with a confederate flag, i know not to ask them for help if i have a flat tire. i just know that. i'm not saying it's true. i'm saying that i know that. all right? i'm saying that i know that for a fact. so, what we have to do is stop acting like we don't know that when somebody has a confederate flag in their y
it's not -- it doesn't make me feel good about being a south carolinian.'ve never been proud to be a south carolinian until this past week, because i see how great people are in charleston. they're really trying to fight for love. and i just want -- i don't want my children to have to grow up in south carolina and see that flag that represents so much turmoil for african americans. and i understand people want to say it's not a race thing, but to me it is. >> flag for the americans who...
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. >> i am a lifelong south carolinian i am a descendant of jefferson davis, okay. but that does not matter. it's not about jenny horne. i cannot believe that we do not have the heart in this body to do something meaningful such as take a symbol of hate off these grounds on friday! and if any of you vote to amend you are ensuring that this flag will fly beyond friday. and for the widow of senator pinckney and his two young daughters that would be adding insult to injury! and i will not be a part of it. >> well a lot of her colleagues are crediting that speech with swinging the debate in favor of removing the flag on friday today. she joins me now. representative horne, you put so much of yourself in making sure this flag came down. i wonder how does it feel now that it has been removed? >> it feels triumphant anderson. that's all i can tell you. i am -- i was so elate today. i cried tears of joy. for those of us who have always thought that the battle flag did not belong on the grounds, we are just rejoicing today in south carolina. >> as you know a big part of this
. >> i am a lifelong south carolinian i am a descendant of jefferson davis, okay. but that does not matter. it's not about jenny horne. i cannot believe that we do not have the heart in this body to do something meaningful such as take a symbol of hate off these grounds on friday! and if any of you vote to amend you are ensuring that this flag will fly beyond friday. and for the widow of senator pinckney and his two young daughters that would be adding insult to injury! and i will not be...
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and it is really striking to see hundreds and hundreds of white south carolinians going to these ralliese, all holding the battle flag. and you realize the breadth and depth of the support for the flag. when you compare that to now, it seems like there's been a fairly significant change in the opinion or the number of people that are willing to really make this an issue. >> absolutely. and back in the late 90s and 2000 you had a lot of legislators in that statehouse that supported keeping that flag up, that were ardent supporters of the confederacy, like glen mcconnell who's now the president of charleston. it was a really tough time. the naacp was strong back then although they said that they weren't for the compromise. and of course the boycott went on. but i think it was a little bit meaner. we went and burnt the flag on confederate memorial day in the year 2000 and we were surrounded by people with confederate flags singing dixey and telling us we were going to go to hillbilly heaven. and he had a long ladder and climbed up the flagpole and set the flag on fire. and of course they ar
and it is really striking to see hundreds and hundreds of white south carolinians going to these ralliese, all holding the battle flag. and you realize the breadth and depth of the support for the flag. when you compare that to now, it seems like there's been a fairly significant change in the opinion or the number of people that are willing to really make this an issue. >> absolutely. and back in the late 90s and 2000 you had a lot of legislators in that statehouse that supported keeping...
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how does it feel to be a south carolinian today? >> today, south carolina! >> watching that flag come down felt like a huge weight was lifted off the state. >> reporter: governor nikki haley presided over the ceremony surrounded by lawmakers and family members of the emanuel nine. >> this statehouse belongs to everybody in south carolina. and nobody should drive by the stowtion and think they don't belong, and no one should drive by and feel pain. that was the difference. we needed to take away a symbol that was causing people pain. >> reporter: within a few hours, a crane had taken down the flagpole and the surrounding fence. some could not let go. >> what they're doing against anything that has to do with confederate heritage or confederate symbolism and confederate history and vilifying it. >> reporter: but for those who turned out the watch history today was a step forward. >> i have marched and i have marched, and my son said, "but you all march and nothing happens." something happened. >> reporter: denise quarles was there in honor of her mother, myra
how does it feel to be a south carolinian today? >> today, south carolina! >> watching that flag come down felt like a huge weight was lifted off the state. >> reporter: governor nikki haley presided over the ceremony surrounded by lawmakers and family members of the emanuel nine. >> this statehouse belongs to everybody in south carolina. and nobody should drive by the stowtion and think they don't belong, and no one should drive by and feel pain. that was the...
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and the other thing is that just nationally we have moved beyond that in many ways and many south carolinians were concerned about the economic impact among other things of appearing to be so stuck in the past. >> right. and the flag was erected on the south carolina statehouse grounds in 1962 as a symbol of defiance against integration. and so it really is a hateful symbol to people alive today who are not seeing it in the context of a war that was fought, but they're seeing it how it's been perverted in its current use. she, nikki haley only has limited powers. she has to get the legislature involved in alabama, also the republican governor. he just -- he was able just through an edict to remove the flag. >> there are calls for confederate symbols to come down across the south. and in texas vandals have defaced civil war era monuments. the confederate statesmen and troops who died in the war. do all confederate symbols need to be destroyed? >> no, of course not. i think the reason why it had to come down in the capitol is the capitol is a special place of the democratic representation of th
and the other thing is that just nationally we have moved beyond that in many ways and many south carolinians were concerned about the economic impact among other things of appearing to be so stuck in the past. >> right. and the flag was erected on the south carolina statehouse grounds in 1962 as a symbol of defiance against integration. and so it really is a hateful symbol to people alive today who are not seeing it in the context of a war that was fought, but they're seeing it how it's...
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i'm a life long south carolinian. i am a dissend ent jefferson davis, okay? but that does not matter. it's not about jenny horn! it's about the people of south carolina who have demanded that this symbol of hate come off of the state house grounds! we need to follow the example of the senate. remove this flag and do it today! because this issue is not getting any better with age! thank you. [ applause ] >> that is republican state representative jenny horn talking about her lineage and descendant jefferson. a new day for south carolina. in congress, there's a last-minute shift from some republicans to allow confederate flag imagery on graves on federal land. an 11th hour change would undue plans to prevent decorating graves with confederate flags and doing business with gift shops that sell confederate flags on it. a vote there is set for today. let's go back to last night though. an incredible speech that was for a lot of people decades if not centuries in the making. >> decades in the making and the context of south carolina. it's not that flag was put up i
i'm a life long south carolinian. i am a dissend ent jefferson davis, okay? but that does not matter. it's not about jenny horn! it's about the people of south carolina who have demanded that this symbol of hate come off of the state house grounds! we need to follow the example of the senate. remove this flag and do it today! because this issue is not getting any better with age! thank you. [ applause ] >> that is republican state representative jenny horn talking about her lineage and...
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. >> reporter: many south carolinians take proud that the massacre was found not by riots but shows ofunity. calls that were answered right here at the state house grounds. jonathan terry, fox news. >>> i mean it still feels like i'm dreaming. >> reporter: the marshawn lynch movie, not coming to a theater near you. >>> and as we move toward the weekend, some changes coming your way. i will show you which way on the weekend are going to be your warmest. >> and it's rush hour on doyle drive rushing to make monday's deadline. how commuters cope with the closure going home tonight. >>> developing news now, the doyle drive closure now 24 hours in and counting creating a slower commute along the golden gate bridge. doyle drive carries about 100,000 vehicles on weekdays. the road links the marina bay bridge and is scheduled to remain closed all weekend. debora villalon is live now at the construction, how is it looking like tonight? >> it's looking good. it's all lit up. you can see the workers way down there. this is a really busy place and it will be right up to monday morning. considering
. >> reporter: many south carolinians take proud that the massacre was found not by riots but shows ofunity. calls that were answered right here at the state house grounds. jonathan terry, fox news. >>> i mean it still feels like i'm dreaming. >> reporter: the marshawn lynch movie, not coming to a theater near you. >>> and as we move toward the weekend, some changes coming your way. i will show you which way on the weekend are going to be your warmest. >> and...
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carolinians and as people who are not represented by the confederate flag. tragedy that a member of the state senate was assassinated, that made a difference as well. but when we talk about, you know the sort of tsunami of politics, black voting, i think, has made maybe a revolution is too strong a word for it, but it's made all the difference in the world. >> this is in some way related but one of the things that has been discussed with respect to some of -- in florida in particular -- is the kind of growing puerto rican population in florida, multiracial and that being significant for the next presidential election. but it also, i think opens the door for us to have some discussion about immigration and the politics of race with respect to that. i mean, we saw some in terms of the kind of digital activism realm, there was significant -- there has been significant attention, for example to what's happening to haitians and the dominican republic in part. so we see a growth in the set of concerns about race internationally, but also, i think, domestically. th
carolinians and as people who are not represented by the confederate flag. tragedy that a member of the state senate was assassinated, that made a difference as well. but when we talk about, you know the sort of tsunami of politics, black voting, i think, has made maybe a revolution is too strong a word for it, but it's made all the difference in the world. >> this is in some way related but one of the things that has been discussed with respect to some of -- in florida in particular --...
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i am a lifelong south carolinian. i am a descendant of jefferson davis. okay? but that does not matter. it is not about jenny horne. it's about the people of south carolina who have demanded that this symbol of hate come off the state house grounds. we need to follow the example of the senate, remove this flag and do it today. because this issue is not getting any better with age. thank you. >> republican jenny horne speaking late this evening in the south carolina house. as this amazing session continues, lawmaker could hold a second vote on the bill only the which would pave the way for a final vote tomorrow that could send the vote to governor haley's desk. if that happens, it could be down as soon as tomorrow or friday. it is far from a done deal as this remarkable conversation continues in that state. watch this. why leave the site? don't you know the tripadvisor you've always trusted for reviews, book! now checks over 200 websites to find the best price? book...book...book! over 200 sites checked to find the best price. so don't just visit tripadvisor...
i am a lifelong south carolinian. i am a descendant of jefferson davis. okay? but that does not matter. it is not about jenny horne. it's about the people of south carolina who have demanded that this symbol of hate come off the state house grounds. we need to follow the example of the senate, remove this flag and do it today. because this issue is not getting any better with age. thank you. >> republican jenny horne speaking late this evening in the south carolina house. as this amazing...
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and i know you've said that for the most part south carolinians get along, black and white, that's it'sor the most part people on the fringes that remain upset about this. >> i do believe that. i think that the race relations in south carolina i think have evolved in a pretty healthy way. over the long course of time as well as in the short term and these events that we've had in south carolina this year both in charleston with the murder of an african-american motorist by a police officer and now this murder of the -- at mother emanuel church or the murders at mother andemanuel church have the possibility to tear things apart. folks were tense. it could have gone the other way. and i think that the reaction of the citizens of south carolina says a whole lot about -- the acts them are horrible and you know those are -- they're random in their nature. but the reaction to them teaches us about what our community and our culture is like in south carolina and says a lot about how well we get along racially and our races get along. and i think that response will actually lead to better race
and i know you've said that for the most part south carolinians get along, black and white, that's it'sor the most part people on the fringes that remain upset about this. >> i do believe that. i think that the race relations in south carolina i think have evolved in a pretty healthy way. over the long course of time as well as in the short term and these events that we've had in south carolina this year both in charleston with the murder of an african-american motorist by a police...
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i believe historically it embodies the life and testimony of the south carolinians that have preceded us in the 20th century, the 19th century. the 18th century, the 17th century, and it's my prayer that it will be the testimony that embodies the life of our children and grandchildren. turn your eyes upon jesus and look full in his wonderful face and the growth will grow strangely dim in his wonderful grace. so much of the truth of that word has been lived in creed, lived in creed. i heard you, senator from charleston. i reflected on it. so much of it has been demonstrated here in this chamber. the streets of our cities the prayer rooms of our gatherings and even in our private places of meditation and prayer, so i'm encouraged. i'm encouraged that things that transcend time, things that transcend time and care for eternity will remain poignant for us. also had a meditation shared with me by someone close to me who reminded me of the struggles of a very human, but yet very saintly servant of the lord king david. a man that sought the face of god and trying times, who had to deal with
i believe historically it embodies the life and testimony of the south carolinians that have preceded us in the 20th century, the 19th century. the 18th century, the 17th century, and it's my prayer that it will be the testimony that embodies the life of our children and grandchildren. turn your eyes upon jesus and look full in his wonderful face and the growth will grow strangely dim in his wonderful grace. so much of the truth of that word has been lived in creed, lived in creed. i heard you,...
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i stand before you tonight as a native south carolinian.nd i am truly truly embarrassed to call south carolina home. i'm embarrassed that my colleagues here in the state house of representatives have chosen to forget about the nine lives that were lost on june the 17th including our dear colleague senator cla men that pinckney. it is truly a sad day in south carolina. many of you know i have not supported the governor in many many occasions. tonight i stand with my governor i stand with my two u.s. senators i stand with the senate of south carolina asking begging, pleading for us to bring south carolina back together. we are broken. we are truly broken. as i travel across this country and around this world i want to be proud to say that i'm a south carolinian. tonight i cannot say it. we owe it to the people of this state, we owe it to the families we owe it to ourselves to remove this flag from the state house grounds. make south carolina an inviting place for not just a few people but for all people. i was impressed with the bipartisan su
i stand before you tonight as a native south carolinian.nd i am truly truly embarrassed to call south carolina home. i'm embarrassed that my colleagues here in the state house of representatives have chosen to forget about the nine lives that were lost on june the 17th including our dear colleague senator cla men that pinckney. it is truly a sad day in south carolina. many of you know i have not supported the governor in many many occasions. tonight i stand with my governor i stand with my two...
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i'm a life-long south carolinian. i am a descendant of jefferson davis, okay? that does not matter. it's not about jenny horne. it's about the people of south carolina who have demanded that this symbol of hate come off of the statehouse grounds. >> more now from diane live in columbia for us. diane. >> reporter: hi, erica. it has been an emotional and historic few weeks here in south carolina. some legislators hope the new flag law will prompt the legislature to take on hate crime. with the stroke of a pen, south carolina governor nikki haley made history removing the confederate flag from the statehouse grounds after a half-century. >> when the emotions start to fade the history of the actions that took place by everyone in south carolina to get us to this moment is one that we can all be proud of. >> reporter: the law removing the flag was passed after a contentious 13-hour debate in the state house of representatives picture flag opponents against supporters. >> i cannot believe that we do not have the heart in this body to do something meaningful such as take a symbol of hate o
i'm a life-long south carolinian. i am a descendant of jefferson davis, okay? that does not matter. it's not about jenny horne. it's about the people of south carolina who have demanded that this symbol of hate come off of the statehouse grounds. >> more now from diane live in columbia for us. diane. >> reporter: hi, erica. it has been an emotional and historic few weeks here in south carolina. some legislators hope the new flag law will prompt the legislature to take on hate crime....
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in fact, flying the confederate flag over the state capitol was viewed by many white south carolinians as a defiant response to the civil rights movement and desegregation. after weeks of outrage to the black community in charleston, following the shooting of walter scott by a police officer, and the mass shooting at an ame church, she believes that there's an opportunity. >> our community responded in such a beautiful way in coming together and mourning together, and in burying the dead together. but now it's time to take it to another step. now it's time to really sit down with one another. and it's time for our school system to look at how it's educating our youth. >> we serve everybody in charleston county. we need to make sure that we understand what that means. >> nelson rivers is the pastor of charity missionary baptist church in north charleston, south carolina, and he joins me from columbia. here's my question, can charleston take this moment of un inimmy, over the confederate flag, and bring balance to the charleston county school district. in the wake of this contentious pro
in fact, flying the confederate flag over the state capitol was viewed by many white south carolinians as a defiant response to the civil rights movement and desegregation. after weeks of outrage to the black community in charleston, following the shooting of walter scott by a police officer, and the mass shooting at an ame church, she believes that there's an opportunity. >> our community responded in such a beautiful way in coming together and mourning together, and in burying the dead...
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believe a majority would like to see it up and i believe i'm speaking for the a majority of south carolinians i would like to prove that with a vote. >> reporter: the flag has been a flash point since the killing of nine people last week. the alleged gunmen dylann roof had been photographed brandishing the flag. state senator scott argued that momentum was with those who oppose the confederate symbols. >> we have turned a deaf ear to a lot of things. >> reporter: flag supporters clashed with opponents. >> first of all it wasn't a civil war. you are being brainwashed to call it a civil war. >> i'm being brainwashed? a slave is one that is being brainwashed. >> take the smack in the face down. it's about the love and harmony now, right? >> reporter: they will hold a vote on tuesday, then it goes to the state house, where the local newspaper suggests it should also pass. governor come mended the senate today. she said this vote could go a long way in healing south carolina. del? >> diane thank you very much. >>> coming up what the u.s. women's soccer team is doing after winning the world cup. >>
believe a majority would like to see it up and i believe i'm speaking for the a majority of south carolinians i would like to prove that with a vote. >> reporter: the flag has been a flash point since the killing of nine people last week. the alleged gunmen dylann roof had been photographed brandishing the flag. state senator scott argued that momentum was with those who oppose the confederate symbols. >> we have turned a deaf ear to a lot of things. >> reporter: flag...
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if and when the confederate flag came down something was done in its place to honor those south carolinians who fought in the civil war. then a tearful speech from another law maker seemed to turn the tide. listen. >> i am a descendant of jefferson davis, okay but that does not matter. it's not about jenny horne! it's about the people of south carolina who have demanded that this symbol of hate come off of the state house grounds. >> republican jenny horne says any amendment to the senate bill could have dragged the process on for weeks. she says that would have disrespected the families of nine people killed during last month's shooting at an historic african-american church in charleston where the alleged gun man who posed with photos of the confederate banner. >> i didn't rehearse or write prepared remarks. i just felt like the debate was getting away from the issue at hand and why we were there in the first place, and that's because of the charleston tragedy. >> so governor nikki haley is skej scheduled to sign the bill this afternoon. at 10:00 tomorrow morning a ceremony has been sched
if and when the confederate flag came down something was done in its place to honor those south carolinians who fought in the civil war. then a tearful speech from another law maker seemed to turn the tide. listen. >> i am a descendant of jefferson davis, okay but that does not matter. it's not about jenny horne! it's about the people of south carolina who have demanded that this symbol of hate come off of the state house grounds. >> republican jenny horne says any amendment to the...
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>> it means a lot of different things to different people but i -- i believe majority of south carolinians would like to see it up. >> reporter: this weekend a robocall that went out across the state compared the effort to take down the flag to the terror group isis. >> reporter: but governor nikki haley argues it is not about rewriting history but instead, about inclusion and growth. >> i don't think this is going to be easy. i don't think that it's going to be painless, but i do think that it will be respectful and that it will move swiftly. >> take it down! >> reporter: those pushing for the change here say it's already taken too long. now, it's going to take a two-thirds vote in both chambers of the general assembly here to take the flag down. that's the latest live near columbia, south carolina. i'm jay gray, back to you. >>> looking at weather now. doug's here, still showers all over the place, huh? >> that's all we are. talking about those afternoon hours that we see this time of year, not going to cause a lot of to problems, you get under one without an umbrella, might be a little
>> it means a lot of different things to different people but i -- i believe majority of south carolinians would like to see it up. >> reporter: this weekend a robocall that went out across the state compared the effort to take down the flag to the terror group isis. >> reporter: but governor nikki haley argues it is not about rewriting history but instead, about inclusion and growth. >> i don't think this is going to be easy. i don't think that it's going to be...
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. >> it's a very special day for me, a very special day for all south carolinians. and many of us fought for years and years to bring the flag down. >> reporter: there's a certain irony after what for many had been a long and difficult fight. >> i don't want this to go away quickly. i want people to remember what today feels like. >> reporter: there is heartache that comes with the history here, many remembering the nine people murdered inside charleston church, the alleged gunman, a self-proclaimed white supremacist. >> the nine who died in charleston are being honored. those who fought during the civil rights movement are being honored. >> reporter: still, some here argue pulling down the banner dishonors the heritage of the state. >> taking it off the pole, sticking it in a museum putting it in a museum isn't going to open a dialogue. >> reporter: today's any indication, a dialogue will continue, even though the flag's gone. >> you're a heart. you're a hater. >> thank you. thank you. >> reporter: but for most of the thousands gathered here, this day was about hop
. >> it's a very special day for me, a very special day for all south carolinians. and many of us fought for years and years to bring the flag down. >> reporter: there's a certain irony after what for many had been a long and difficult fight. >> i don't want this to go away quickly. i want people to remember what today feels like. >> reporter: there is heartache that comes with the history here, many remembering the nine people murdered inside charleston church, the...
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people who -- south carolinians who are uncomfortable by the confederate flag will continue to fly the american flag and the south carolina state flag, which in my humble opinion is one of the most beautiful state flags. it has the palmetto and the crescent on it. a lot of people proudly fly that in front of their homes and those people who are disappointed see the confederate flag go down from the state capitol will continue to fly that confederate flag, that confederate battle flag in front of their homes in south carolina. sound like there's some developments going on. >> exactly. nikki haley now speaking to the press. >> again, i'm not going try to see if all the cameras are ready. look at everybody around us. that's the first thing i want you to take in just look at this shot. can you hear me on the mic? press guys? are we good? one, two throw. one, two three. we good? can the tv guys hear? >> yes. >> all right. i well yell as loud as i can. so you know it's hard for us to look at what is happening today and not think back to 22 days ago. it seems like so long ago. because the gri
people who -- south carolinians who are uncomfortable by the confederate flag will continue to fly the american flag and the south carolina state flag, which in my humble opinion is one of the most beautiful state flags. it has the palmetto and the crescent on it. a lot of people proudly fly that in front of their homes and those people who are disappointed see the confederate flag go down from the state capitol will continue to fly that confederate flag, that confederate battle flag in front...
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how can i write it, asked the north carolinian, to describe what has fallen us. general lee has surrendered. on who hung the hopes of the whole country. it seems to dreadful to realize. a young georgia woman 1865, no one seems to doubt it. everybody feels ready to give up hope. it is useless to struggle longer, and the wanted men go -- seems to be the common cry and the four wounded men go hobbling about the streets with despair on their faces. from florida, another young woman reacted with which we were all dead. it is as if the earth has crumbled beneath our feet. in north carolina in spoke for many soldiers and civilians in a single sustained statement. the life of the confederacy is gone when generally and his army surrendered. the impact of appomattox sheds light on another debate among civil war enthusiasts and relates to this notion of why people sought as the end of the war. that debate is on the importance of events in the western theater versus the eastern theater. the east was more important. that is my bottom line. many don't agree. you are confused.
how can i write it, asked the north carolinian, to describe what has fallen us. general lee has surrendered. on who hung the hopes of the whole country. it seems to dreadful to realize. a young georgia woman 1865, no one seems to doubt it. everybody feels ready to give up hope. it is useless to struggle longer, and the wanted men go -- seems to be the common cry and the four wounded men go hobbling about the streets with despair on their faces. from florida, another young woman reacted with...
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many south carolinians take price in the fact that last month's shooting at emanuel ame church was followed not by riots but displays of racial unity and calls for one state under one flag call that is were answered right here on the state house grounds. >> jonathan serrie in columbia thank you. >>> here in washington republicans are engaged in damage control over an effort to keep the confederate flag at some very sensitive locations. correspondent doug mcelway has that part of the story from capitol hill. >> reporter: the debate in south carolina may have ended but it's just beginning in washington. >> to allow this flag to be sold to be displayed on federal land is unacceptable. >> reporter: the house floor erupted in acrimony thursday. at issue, a republican amendment that would allow one day a year on confederate memorial day the confederate flag to be placed on confederate tombstones in national cemeteries like arlington which contains an entire confederate section. iowa republican steve king whose ancestors fought for the union defended the amendment. >> when guy to germany and they'
many south carolinians take price in the fact that last month's shooting at emanuel ame church was followed not by riots but displays of racial unity and calls for one state under one flag call that is were answered right here on the state house grounds. >> jonathan serrie in columbia thank you. >>> here in washington republicans are engaged in damage control over an effort to keep the confederate flag at some very sensitive locations. correspondent doug mcelway has that part of...
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i think there's a young generation of americans and south carolinians who want to move forward. generation in the state of south carolina don't necessarily see the divides of black and white. i oftentimes tell people that the challenges of our generation are moving from black and white to the haves versus the have-nots. there's a very large group of south carolinans who want to see that flag come down. we just hope sooner than later because the temperature is rising quickly here in south carolina. for all parties involved, we want to make sure we get all them here on monday and get the flag down thursday or friday. >> the vote, if it is to take it down, it comes down immediately? >> i believe the governor will shine the bill. and when she signs it, i expect it not to be a great ceremony, i just expect a young man to go out there and lower the flag and pack it up and put it away. it's been up since 1962. this state has been through a lot of trauma over the past decades and more specifically the past few weeks and months. i think when that flag comes down we'll be able to breathe
i think there's a young generation of americans and south carolinians who want to move forward. generation in the state of south carolina don't necessarily see the divides of black and white. i oftentimes tell people that the challenges of our generation are moving from black and white to the haves versus the have-nots. there's a very large group of south carolinans who want to see that flag come down. we just hope sooner than later because the temperature is rising quickly here in south...
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i am a lifelong south carolinian. i am a descendant of jefferson davis, okay? but that does not matter. it's not about jenny horne. it's about the people of south carolina who have demanded that this symbol of hate come off of the state house grounds. and i will tell you i do know and i have it on good authority the world is watching this debate. and there is an economic development prospect in dor chester county that is in jeopardy because we refuse to act. we need to follow the example of the senate remove this flag and do it today, because this issue is not getting any better with age. thank you. [ applause ]. >> joining me now to discuss attorney and south carolina democratic state senator. also state representative joe neal. we'll i want to start with you, senator. we have talked to you several times over the past few weeks since this issue really came to fruition and light after the deaths of those nine people inside that charleston church. i want to get your reaction to what happened in the house early this morning. >> well let me just say this i am very
i am a lifelong south carolinian. i am a descendant of jefferson davis, okay? but that does not matter. it's not about jenny horne. it's about the people of south carolina who have demanded that this symbol of hate come off of the state house grounds. and i will tell you i do know and i have it on good authority the world is watching this debate. and there is an economic development prospect in dor chester county that is in jeopardy because we refuse to act. we need to follow the example of the...
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. >> reporter: i believe the majority of south carolinians would like to see it up.i would like to prove that with a vote. >> reporter: the flag has become a flash point since the killing of nine people last month at charleston's emanual ame church. during monday's debate state senator john scott argued that momentum was with those who opposed the confederate symbols. >> we have turned a deaf ear to a lot of things. it's time that we change. >> reporter: the debate over the stars and bars spilled on to the state house lawn. >> first of all it wasn't a civil war, so you are being brainwashed to call it a civil war -- >> i'm being brainwashed snfrmths >> a slave is one that is being brainwashed. >> it's about the love and harmony now, right? >> reporter: the senate will hold a final vote on tuesday, then it goes to the state's house, where accounts by the local newspaper suggest it should also past. >> the governor applauded the vote, she said the senate is bringing the state together in unity and healing. >>> a massachusetts man has been charged with posting an online
. >> reporter: i believe the majority of south carolinians would like to see it up.i would like to prove that with a vote. >> reporter: the flag has become a flash point since the killing of nine people last month at charleston's emanual ame church. during monday's debate state senator john scott argued that momentum was with those who opposed the confederate symbols. >> we have turned a deaf ear to a lot of things. it's time that we change. >> reporter: the debate over...
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. >>> many south carolinians thought this day would never come tonight both the confederate flag ande been removed from the statehouse grounds. just under three weeks since governor haley called for the flag to come down. don lemon is in columbia. you were able to talk about the governor right after. >> reporter: yeah i absolutely was able to talk to her right after. our conversation brianna, was very interesting. i got to see both of them, both 9 flag come down and you have to tell you, it was just as momentous an occasion i think to watch the pole come down as well. then you knew for sure nothing else is going back up there. but speaking to the governor she was very personal about why she felt this flag should come down. >> so governor you will remember where you were on july 10th 2015 you presided over history. what does that mean to you? >> you know, this is a surreal moment. standing out there watching that flag come down it felt like the biggest weight was lifted off the state. it just felt so -- it's like the state -- it's a true new day in south carolina. it feels like a new
. >>> many south carolinians thought this day would never come tonight both the confederate flag ande been removed from the statehouse grounds. just under three weeks since governor haley called for the flag to come down. don lemon is in columbia. you were able to talk about the governor right after. >> reporter: yeah i absolutely was able to talk to her right after. our conversation brianna, was very interesting. i got to see both of them, both 9 flag come down and you have to...
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effort and so what we have to do is make sure we keep the spirit of unity together for all south caroliniansr: the last time the kkk was here in columbia was 28 years ago, back in 1988. there's a lot of security here a lot of police surrounding this state capital. the southern poverty law center says back in 1925 there were some four million members of the kkk. today only 4,000. and they say the group is weak divided, and poorly led. alex? >> adam i don't know if your cameraman is able to do this but if there's any way to look into that crowd over your shoulder. i know governor nikki haley said these are -- that the klan rallies is a hateful spectacle and called for residents to avoid that one. you said that doesn't start until 3:00. but this one behind you looks fairly well attended. >> a couple dozen people alex. peaceful, obviously, a couple speakers. the person who is supposed to speak today has not arrived yet. they are called -- this group is the black educators for justice. they're also a group of lawyers involved. i can tell you that the governor, governor haley who you just mentione
effort and so what we have to do is make sure we keep the spirit of unity together for all south caroliniansr: the last time the kkk was here in columbia was 28 years ago, back in 1988. there's a lot of security here a lot of police surrounding this state capital. the southern poverty law center says back in 1925 there were some four million members of the kkk. today only 4,000. and they say the group is weak divided, and poorly led. alex? >> adam i don't know if your cameraman is able to...
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and what we have proved as south carolinians over these last dreadful weeks.t monument that is on the grounds honors the confederate dead. those men who fought honorably and valiantly for south carolina. we should honor them. unfortunately, we have also seen many moves that seek to go beyond the flag. it seeks to remove vestiges of what the south was, to remove history, almost a cultural genocide. host: he was a republican speaking in defense of the confederate flag. that took place as debate over the flag caused it to come down today as the governor of south carolina announced. the did they took place yesterday in the house and joining us to tell us more about what happened is matt fuller. good morning. guest: good morning to you. host: could you set the stage -- the stories in the paper are playing at what happened in congress. this is the headline with usa today and spending issues and dealt with displays of the flag at certain times. can you tell us what happened yesterday? guest: yes, we started the day. on wednesday night, there was an interior appropria
and what we have proved as south carolinians over these last dreadful weeks.t monument that is on the grounds honors the confederate dead. those men who fought honorably and valiantly for south carolina. we should honor them. unfortunately, we have also seen many moves that seek to go beyond the flag. it seeks to remove vestiges of what the south was, to remove history, almost a cultural genocide. host: he was a republican speaking in defense of the confederate flag. that took place as debate...
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it will be gone from the state house, but i talked to a number of south carolinians who say they'll continueflag of the confederacy. it was flown either on or outside the state house for 54 years, a long time. i did talk to the brother of one of the victims of the shootings there. his name is malcolm graham and his sister was killed three weeks ago in the shootings. he told me he cannot believe that it's taken this for this flag to come down. he said this flag should have come down a long time ago. aaron? >> dave wagner in columbia south carolina for us. thank you. >>> in 15 minutes we'll tell you how the confederate flag is taking center stage in loudoun county, virginia, today, as well as across the state of virginia. >>> a silver spring teenager charged with rape won't be returning to school even though a judge ruled that he could go back to class. 16-year-old marquise turner is accused of raping his 19-year-old ex-girlfriend outside of a courthouse in rockville last month and the victim died on the way to the hospital but an autopsy has not been released. as questions about the criminal
it will be gone from the state house, but i talked to a number of south carolinians who say they'll continueflag of the confederacy. it was flown either on or outside the state house for 54 years, a long time. i did talk to the brother of one of the victims of the shootings there. his name is malcolm graham and his sister was killed three weeks ago in the shootings. he told me he cannot believe that it's taken this for this flag to come down. he said this flag should have come down a long time...