include a former us secretary over ross sophie richardson, human right watches, china director, carolyn bartholomew, chair of the us, china, economic and security review commission. adam king of the international public institute. but they all have a big comment. so joining us discuss where this back and forth might end is a roger balls ceo of inter med resources. we had you on roger because you're one of those businesses that do a lot with it, both in china and outside. you've had to deal with it. so i got to ask you this latest move by the chinese, i call it kind of chinese checkers white house is saying the us will be undeterred by the chinese response. but i have to say something that all those people kind of have in common is that those are republicans, mainly people from the trump administration. organizations that are known to be more conservative. so to try to not realize this, a lack of regard, that each party america for each other. in fact, i think the bite and white house probably shouldn't, for baskets to show their gratitude in this movie. well, it's obvious, scotty and thank you for