something called the levinson law that would just mean that the american envoy, special envoy roger carstens, that he can intervene on behalf of vladimir kara-murza. there's a big basis for that, but the biggest one is that he's a green card holder and his his wife and his children, his three children live here on the us for the others. i also think that the us government should, first of all, clearly punish somehow, even if it's just symbolic, the russian government for what they've done to alexei navalny and then work to try to get the others released. and we probably need to do it with our european and other allies and partners. there may be some kind of prisoner swap that can be negotiated will continue to watch it. obviously, evelyn farkas, great to have your expertise here today. thank you for joining. and of course, it's important to look at the big picture here is navalny's death is coming as russia has just made a major military gain and ukraine, they wrestling control of a key city of dq, the, a city that ukrainian forces have been trying to defend for a decade now, cnn's nick pato