. >> what is that phrase that carter braxton worth likes to use about charts, it sounds like these guys are saying things look so bad, it looks good at this point what do you think? >> i agree with the more positive spin on it. i bought the stock, waiting for a long, long time and once it broke 400, bought it below 400, little lower than that now, but i think there is sort of a lot to like about it i saw some comparing about blackberry, which seemed -- i don't get that one, it is hardware, this is completely different. aside from growth, which i think is still there, they also have pricing growth we have seen them use that from time to time we don't know when they'll use it again a price increase is a very good thing for the bottom line. the other thing is, netflix themselves have not been very good predictors of their own next quarter, next couple of quarters, and so they gave this sort of very, you know, disappointing outlook and i don't know if it was a sandbag or not, but i feel like, all right, this is really a premiere player it is the -- the number one player, way far ahead of ev