here again carter evans. >> oh, my god! >> reporter: as the fire storm raged into their calabasas neighborhood... >> it was just walls of fire coming right at us. >> reporter: what was that like? >> it was awful. reporter: melad and her longtime neighbor tina leeney knew they had to leave fast. >> when i pulled out of the driveway, i thought our house was gone. it was definitely hellacious. it was nothing we've ever experienced before. >> reporter: and when were the firefighters? >> there weren't any firefighter here's. but i knew at least we had allen still. >> reporter: allen nelson assured his neighbors he would stay and try to save their homes with one hose. were you scared with your life? >> yeah, yeah, absolutely. >> reporter: it was the last stand. the embers are flying through the air, and you've got this garden hose. was there ever a point where you thought, "i'm outnumbered here?" >> it felt like everything was-- was-- like i'm an idiot for being up here. but if it came to it again, i would do the exact same thing

demarco. >> morgan: all right, carter evans, reporting. carter, thank you. president trump is in paris this weekend for events marking 100 years since the end of world war i. hours after mr. trump vented on twitter about the president of france, the two leaders brushed it off. weijia jiang is traveling with the president. >> we have become very good friends over the last couple of years. >> reporter: president trump and president emmanuel macron put their good friendship on display with the body language to prove it. they also found a common message to tamp down their ongoing conflict over defense spending. >> i do share president trump's views that we need a much better burden sharing with nato. >> i appreciate what you're saying about burden sharing. >> reporter: but minutes before landing in paris, the president tweeted, "president macron of france has just suggested that europe build its own military in order to protect itself from the u.s., china, and russia. very insulting." mr. trump was asked about the tweet. >> we're getting along from the standpoin

cbs reporter carter evans has the story of a man who had to run through flames in order to survive. >> the dreams that i've had since i've been here, my god. >> reporter: bill blevins spoke to us from his hospital bed, still recovering from third-degree burns he suffered while trying to escape the camp fire. flames had surrounded the home he was visiting, and the only way out was to go through them. >> the car was actually on fire? >> yes. my car was actually on fire. >> what were you thinking? >> what do we do? what's next? run back to the house is the only thing we could think. try to get back to the house and save the house and keep it from catching fire. ve a chance of the surviving. >> reporter: he says running through the fire was the scariest moment of his life. >> what was like? >> intense. the flames burnt my face, my hands. the flames across the road were like a blow torch. i was watching all the homes around us just burn to the ground. then it set in, i'm burnt bad. the skin is melting off my hands. i said, "we're stuck in the middle of this fire, and we don't know if we ha

reena. >> ninan: carter evans. carter, thank you so much. s rising gas prices fueled violent clashes in paris today between the police and protesters wearing yellow vests. protesters threw rocks and set fires, triggering that explosion. police responded with tear gas and water cannons. at least 20 people were hurt, dozens arrested. demonstrations have been staged across france this month over rising gas taxes aimed at reducing pollution. coming up, it's a retail revolution, and the robots are here. >> ninan: during this busy shopping season, you may notice that the retail experience is being revolutionized. stores are using technology to make it easier for shoppers to find, pay for, even pick up items that they're looking for. tony dokoupil checked it out. >> reporter: this walmart in rogers, arkansa, looks like the store you've been shopping at for years. well, almost. america's largest retailer is hoping to stay on top, bringing a dose of online convenience to old-fashioned, off-line shopping. this holiday season, every aisle can be the ch

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all right, carter evans in thousand oaks. thank you.ee days after the eio onren hse, senate, andrnors' rn undecided, including crucial contests in arizona and georgia. protests have also broken out in florida, where talk of lawsuits llinrecounts has many recalling a battle from the past. here's ed o'keefe. >> record every vote! >> reporter: in broward county in south florida, angry protesters stormed past truck g rricades and accused election officials of trying to steal >>tes for the democrats. >> this is invalid. the others are valid. >> reporter: inside, those same officials tediously counted ballots. vetgoing republican governor rick scott is clinging to a barely 15,000-vote lead against incumbent democrat bill nelson in the nation's most expensive u.s. senate contest. in the governor's race, about 36,000 votes separate republican ron desantis from democrat andrew gillum. last night, scott raised the stakes, accusing broward and palm beach county elections of withholding voting information. >> no rag-tag group of liberal btivists or

carter evans, cbs news, sacramento. ve brown: you may have noticed prices have been creeping up for many of the products you buy in stores. one factor is higher shipping costs brought on by a shortage of truck drivers. trucking companies have posted "help wanted" signs and are now anawing recruits from an unexpected source. here's jim axelrod. >> reporter: here's what you might expect to see driving i-80 near laramie, wyoming: long ofretches of highway, framed by rolling hills, trucker after trucker making their runs, hauling everything from fuel to furniture, billboards advertising where they can gas up. what you might not expect is that the trucker in the next lane is wearing a turban. >> i cannot stay in an office, to be honest with you, now. >> reporter: i know the feeling. even with unemployment at nearly a 49-year low, there's a record shortage of truck drivers. this year, the turnover rate for truck drivers is 96%. more than 50,000 drivers are aneded to meet the demand. and the shortage is forcing fompanies like

. >> reporter: this is carter evans reporting.s shooting broke out if a strip mall where a pilates session was scheduled. >> we have one victim passed away. >> reporter: authorities say six others were wounded, one of whom is in critical condition, and the gunman is also dead, possibly from a self-inflicted gunshot wound. police have not yet determined a motive for the shooting or identified the gunman. >> until we know who he is, that's the baseline right now before we get started. >> reporter: carter evans, >> glor: steve hartman is next here: first responders getting a second chance. building a better bank starts with looking at something old, and saying, "really?" so capital one is building something completely new. capital one cafes. inviting places with people here to help you, not sell you. and savings and checking accounts with no fees or minimums. because that's how it should be. you can open one from right here or anywhere in 5 minutes. seriously, 5 minutes... this is banking reimagined. what's in your wallet? ♪ ♪ if it

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carter evans, cbs news, sacramento. >> the fire now is 95% contained thanks to the rain that we got.tored gas and power to some parts of paradise. today fema representatives stepped in to try to help victims at a town howl in roseville. several other organizations were also at the meeting, including cal fire and the sheriff's department. fema also opened a second disaster resources center in oroville on top of the existing center in chico. the diocese of sacramento is lending a helping hand to families affected by the camp fire. for the remainder of the school year, students displaced by the fire can attend the private catholic schools in the diocese without paying tuition. financial relief is being offered at more than three dozen schools. >> when we heard that the butte county schools were going to need a little more time to reopen, and knowing that families have been scattered across the north in the sacramento area, we just thought it would be good to open those desks to kids to get them back into school. >> in addition getting free tuition, which usually costs between 5 to $6,00

carter evans went along. >> reporter: when macklemore first started rapping in high school, he admit slowly. >> reporter: it was here at garfield high in seattle's inner city where ben haggerty, the boy that became macklemore, found his passion for music. >> this is the place that i had just started to rap when i was like 14. >> reporter: today his talent is undisputed. the grammy winner's music videos have more than 3 billion views online and now he's using his success to help his hometown. >> as soon as i got money and a platform i said how can we do something in seattle, locally, that we didn't have when we were kids. >> massive cuts to the arts and music programs in schools across the country have left many teens with few outlets for creative expression. >> if you're just in this strict curriculum everyday and you're not exercising that creativity, you want to escape, you want to get out. >> so macklemore and his business partner rya lewis teamed up with pop culture and arts corps to give seattle's disadvantage teens a chance to pursue their hip-hop dreams for free. >> welcome to

i went in and got more people to get out. >> carter evans is in thousand oaks about 40 miles west of re. >> good morning. the atf and the fbi are assisting other agencies with this investigation. authorities have identified the gunman as 28-year-old ian david long. he was a former marine and he's had run ins with law enforcement before but nothing significant. the first calls for the shooting came in before 11:30 last night. it was college night at the borderline bar and grill and about 150 to 200 people were inside when the shooting began. according to authorities, the shooting lasts only three minutes. the ventura county sheriff says he doesn't think the shooting was random but investigators don't have a motive. we spoke to a witness. what did you do when you heard gunshots? >> i dropped. i was with my friend who we still haven't found but he was -- he yelled get down and all of us dropped. i remember at one point i saw the gunman with his gun drawn. pointing at where you pay but i know that i dropped down and i was just -- i was hiding and i was like this is not happening but when

carter evans, cbs news, los angeles. >>> people in newark, new jersey, say their water contains dangerous of lead. why one group says it's suing the city. arts andrea bocelli is making music of family business. he talks about collaborating with his son. >>> and da vinci code author dan brown joins us in studio 57 to reveal his latest project. that's the "cbs morning news" for this thursday. thanks for watching. i'm anne-marie green, have a great day. for this thursday. thanks for watching. i'm anne-marie green, have a great day. >>> hello, thursday. as we take a live look from ours "salesforce tower" camera looking at coit tower this morning, lit up in san francisco giants orange and black in honor of willie mccovey. good morning, it is thursday, november 1st. i'm kenny choi. >> and i'm michelle griego. we have a lot going on this morning including a shooting in san jose that sent three teens to the hospital. it happened at the seven trees community center around 10 p.m. authorities say they found two girls with gunshot wounds. moments later, police found a third shooting victim, a male j

carter evans has been reporting on this story since late last night. he joins us now. and, carter, it's been an awful and chilling day here. >> reporter: yeah, a horrific scene here. we were one of the first to arrive here on the scene last night, barely an hour after the shooting began. survivors were still pouring out, and they were in shock, most of them college students here for a night of dancing, which in a split second turned into a night of terror. this dramatic video, apparently shows the moments when a gunman opened fire inside a thousand oaks club. the frantic radio calls began the frantic radio calls began pouring in just before 11:30. it was college night at the borderline, a popular country t thern bar. >> we were at the bar, you know, having fun, dancing. and then all of a sudden you hear, like, the bang, bang of the gunshots. >> reporter: these women were two of nearly 200 trapped as celebration turned to chaos. a gunman dressed in all black stormed in with a .45-caliber glock handgun. he first shot a security guard at the front entrance, deployed smoke

carter evans now on thanksgiving r the northern fire zone. >> reporter: recovery crews aren't slowing down today.eypar, urs r a large rainm all but extinguished the massive camp fire. the rain makes it harder to sift through wet ash and debris, but safer for cadaver dogs, searching for human remains, according to deputy mark brown. or it decreases inhalation hazard for the humans and canines. >> reporter: all that toxic dust. >> they're not inhaling it, and then the canines, you can't txactly put masks on them because they have to use their nose. >> reporter: the storm could rm c up to six inches of rain over the next few days, leaving authorities to close down one of ine main access roads to the fire zone. with 52,000 people evacuated, many still have no place to go for the holiday. some are living in tents in the walmart parking lot, but volunteers, even celebrity chefs like guy fieri, have rallied around this community, providing thousands of thanksgiving meals. >> giving thanks is exactly what we need. it is exactly what has happened. >> thank you. >> reporter: among the volunteer

california historic wildfires month is ending with flood, mud slides, he vak yaitions and rescues, carter evans has the latest. >> jeff, st burn-scared hillsides like these that people are so concerned about right now. there is just nothing left to hold the dirt in place so when it rains like this, well, often the flash flooding is next. that is what happened in an area of chico today that was scorched by wildfires. the deadly camp fire, and that area streets were flooded. authorities sent in small boats and high water rescue vehicles to help people trapped in their homes n l.a. swift rising waters caught thisane demerform a dramatic rescue from the air. 08 miles south time laps video shows fast moving mud flows throughout canyons and hills bar ron after the holy fire in riverside, county. the weather is expected to clear tomorrow but the forecast calls for more rain this weekend, jeff? >> glor: carter, thank you very much. these are four minutes of rivetting and terrifying, newly released video shows what a deputy went through to help a group of nurses escape from paradise, california as it bu

carter evans is in paradise with the show of good will. od morning. >> reporter: good morning. there are 1,600 personnel still working this fire, or what's left of it. they're shifting their focus to the rain right now cutting down tree limbs trying to make it safe for people to return for those who live here. the holiday provided a glimmer of hope after weeks of desperation. in a place forever changed by the devastating northern california wildfire, thanksgiving was a day of reflection and community. >> everything is gone. >> reporter: evacuee susan van horne is one of the more than 13,000 homeowners who don't have a house to return to this holiday season. >> coming here and seeing first responders serving, it just brought me to tears because they've already done so much. >> reporter: she was thankful for the dozens of firefighters who before eating their own dinner stepped up to serve others. >> more? >> to me, this is -- it's almost like -- i'd rather be here, you know? it's helping other people, and that's part of what thanksgiving's ab

we spoke with carter evans. >> the embers are flying through the air. you have this garden hose. was there ever a point where you thought darn, i'm outnumbered? >> it felt like everything was, i'm an idiot for being up here. if it came do it again, i would do the same thing. i thought of those houses caught, they would have, it would have been 20 or 30 more homes that were gone. >> we are very grateful. i am thankful we have the neighbors that we have and we look out for each other. >> the fire has destroyed 800 structures. >>> president trump met with people affected by another tragedy. the massive shooting in thousand oaks. the president met with first responders and the parents of victims yesterday. people gathered outside of the borderline bar and grill to honor those killed in the shooting. president trump reflected just before he jetted off on air force one.>> we hug them and kiss them and everybody. it was very warm. i was with the parents of a young supporter, just a terrific young man. it was a tough thing to do. this is noea there was also a memorial service for another

now they only have one per carter evans there, thank you. there's a lot to discuss tonight.house of representatives, what happened in the senate is caetty significant. >> were you going to talk about the women because 16 of the 22 seats so far are women. do we call it ladies night, can we call it that? >> i won't sick the song but there is something happening. >> 16 of the 22 democratic pickups is what you mean. >> yes. >> i think back to you know, if were you writing the history of the trump administration you have his inauguration and the next day the women's march. a lot of these candidates, a lot of the energy when you talk about women in the democratic party came very early on and has been long-standing and thorough. and so what we see tonight really started, you know, arguably more than two years ago in terms of getting people envolveed and building this wave of women in their involvement in the democratic races. >> the democrats went into this with a strategic plan. they said we are going to try and flip women, white women in particular, voted for donald trump in the

carter evans begins our coverage. >> barely an hour after the shooting began, survivors were still pouringut, and they were in shock, most of them college student here is for a night of dancing, which in a split second turned into a night of terror. this dramatic video apparently shows the moments when a gunman opened fire inside a thousand oaks club. a units, shots firede borderline. >> reporter: the frantic calls began pouring in just before 11:30. >> we've got multiple people down. well need a lot of ambulances and fire. >> it was college night. >> these women were two of nearly 200 trapped as the celebration turned to chaos. a gunman dressed in all black stormed in with a 45 caliber glock handgun. he first shot a security guard at the front entrance, deployed smoke bombs inside and opened fire, shooting at random. >> i heard the shots.erneownnd started freaking t andcram r sa. so hiding in rest rooms, overs diving through windows. >> he's copping out this door! >> and our friends got the barstools, and they started slamming against the windows so we could get out. that's how we were ab

carter evans joins us now from sacramento this morning with a story of one man's fight to survive. good morning, carter. >> reporter: good morning. when the campfire basically insinner rated t incinerated the town of paradise, they were brought here to the medical center. one was bill blevins, and while he's thankful he's alive, what he saw will haunt him forever. >> the dreams that i've had since i've been here, my god. i've burnt so many times in the fire. >> reporter: as his third degree burns heal, his dreams are born out of a my mayor. he was spending the night at a friend's home in paradise when a campfire tore through town. the only way out was straight through the flames. >> reporter: the car was on fire. >> yes, it was actually on. >> what were you thinking? >> what do you do? run back to the house and try to save the house and keep it from catching fire. if we can keep the house from catching fire, we might have a chance of surviving. >> reporter: he says running through the fire was the scariest moment of his life. what was the heat like? >> intense? the flames burnt my f

carter evans reports. >> reporter: federal agents were back at 28-year-old ian long's house and looking for clues as to why the former marine opened fire in the borderline bar killing 12 with an extended magazine on a glock handgun. according to ventura county sheriff's department, posting on instagram in between shots. ed to stratton was there wednesday night. >> i it in my head the whole time about how the whole profile of a mass shooter is, certain categories. >> and now you find out it's your friend. >> it's my friend and it doesn't fit because i know this person. >> reporter: he'd been friends with long for 11 years and he says he thought long might be suffering from ptsd when he came back from deployment in afghanistan in 2013. >> and there was times where people would ask him about it and he got kind of, you know, upset and told her, like, he doesn't -- you know, like talking about it. >> reporter: however, long's high school track coach says he showed a violent and abusive side even before he entered the marines. >> i was talking to some students and their eyes got wide. and i t

carter evans is outside the borderline bar and grill in thousand oaks. >> reporter: good morning.is still a very active crime scene. investigators are behind me, gathering evidence. and now this city of thousand oaks, once considered one of the safest cities in the country is coming to grips with this terrible tragedy. ♪ gce nis in song.t a vil thursdaydr an overflow crowd gathered outside to remember those who were lost. mariah says two of her best friends were killed. >> it feels like a dream. i wish i could hear from both of them again. >> reporter: gunfire can be heard in dramatic new develop phone video recorded during the attack. police say the gunman appeared to fire at random. >> they ran out of doors, windows. our young people, people in nightclubs, have learned this may happen. >> reporter: according to authorities, the shooter was 28-year-old ian long, a former marine combat veteran who had been stationed in afghanistan. police say long used a .45-caliber handgun. first shooting a security guard outside the bar. witnesses say he deployed smoke bombs before going in and

carter evans is in malibu, one of the cities hit by those recent wildfires. carter, good morning. >> good morning. we got a solid day of rain and more is on the way and that's a concern in burn areas like this because in the mountains around here, there's really nothing left to hold the dirt in place. now, heavy uppours across southern california prompted flash flood warnings and mandatory evacuations for about 4,000 homes. once the rain slowed, piles of mud, ash and debris blocked some roads. highways were slick. there were a lot of accidents. this area is not used to so much rain at once. in northern california, many affected by the deadly camp fire forced to evacuate again, this time because of rising floodwaters. first responders had to rescue several in butte county. a los angeles firefighter rescued a man clinging to a tree in the rushing water of the l.a. river. he was later treated for hypothermia. now, we should get a break from the rain for a while. but there is more rain expected. the good news, this storm not as bad as the last one. >> that is some

. >> carter evans is in paradise, california, the town nearly wiped out by the fire. >> reporter: it's already turning out to be a ranky thanksgiving for so many left homeless and the thousands of firefighters still here working the screen. could watch away any human remains and also turn this ash into a thick past which is really hard to search. on the fire-charred hillside near paradise, emergency crews are working to protect what's left of the town. they laid down these tubes designed to control runoff. what's the concern? >> especially up in paradise, is that a storm is going to bring down trees anyway so after the fire has gone through the trees are more weak. >> reporter: the rain is making life more difficult for evacuees. hundreds are spending thanksgiving in a makeshift camp outside of the local walmart. the store is asking them to leave and is working with local authorities to increase capacity at approved shelters. for some getting to the more difadi distance shelter. >> we need a car to go. >> reporter: a disaster relief organization hopes to feed thanksgiving dinner at a s

carl evans is at the registrar of voters in santa ana. carter, good morning. >> reporter: good morning. workers here at the registrar's office were counting ballots until about 3:00 a.m., then they knocked off. they'll return today and have to continue counting the mail-in ballots that were dropped off. they still have to tally the votes in orange county, and until they do, the house majority will remain an open question. republican congressman dale rohrbacher has held that seat for three years. he's currently behind his democratic opponent by almost 3,000 votes with a lot of outstanding mail-in ballots still to tally. that's one of seven republican-held congressional seats throughout california the democrats thought they had a chance at flipping, but it may not turn out that way. one of those is currently leading toward the republican candidate while the other six are still too close to call. one race that was decided, republican duncan hunter of san diego was reelected, and here's the thing. he's facing federal indictment, a 60-count federal i

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