carter hull is one of those lawyers that was handling these cases. the first lawyer to take a look at these tea party cases. we know from transcripts of interviews with the hull's oversight committee he begin looking at the cases. the reason employees in cincinnati even began screening for tea party cases was due to requests from washington. >> megyn: what is his relationship to other the players in this. they have put a chart totaling involved in this and they show a woman named cindy thomas. what relationship between send di thomas and carter hull? >> she would have been a different office. she was overseeing exempt organizations. she answered to holly poz who then answered to lois lerner. these lawyers are in washington, d.c. and they provide guidance, oversight, direction to the cincinnati office. my sources in cincinnati say they are, employees in the cincinnati office are incredibly upset with cindy thomas which is the top woman in cincinnati for not defending them against the claims of people like lois lerner and like former commissioner doug

thus far carter hull has had no comment.rter hull was part of the rules protection for companies. i think it's important to know these underlings have feelings and pride in their work because the "wall street journal" exclusively got a look at these transcripts at which time the employee went on to say they were outraged. they were furious. it looked like lois lerner was putting it all on us. that is why they are coming out saying it came from washington. not necessarily the white house. came from washington. >>steve: what was carter hull, this washington, d.c.-based i.r.s. attorney doing? apparently after elizabeth hofacre got the request to investigate tea party organizations, she wanted to know what to ask them. carter hull started suggesting questions. ask them this, ask them that and send them to me in washington, d.c. so i can share them. she thought it was ridiculous, overmanaging was overboard, asking for a transfer and got out of that department. there was one other fellow also in cincinnati involved. he was told by

who told carter hull? once you find, get carter hull, i want to see him in front of the congressional panel saying this is how i came up this myself. >> bob: i say, it's not chairman issa has not released the full transcript of the discussions, the ones of the cincinnati people. he will not release. only one he releases is damning ones and chaffetz, don't get away from the tv camera, you don't have enough expose to your sur. republican leadership is upset with issa and he used that comment about lying on the sunday shows and act like a mature adult chairman. she accounting more like a hack. >> dana: one thing i noticed, one the articles, he expresses outrage over the videos and he tried to understand them ui at 3:00 a.m. if he is up at 3:00 a.m.. >> greg: he can race "redeye". >> dana: a lot more redeeming than irs videos. >> bob: people pay thousand bucks for the conferences and day or two -- >> where is the outrage about the defense? >> greg: that is lame defense. >> greg: the irs scandal is much bigger

quote, i essentially was front person because i had no authority to act on applications without carter hull'sence or input. the act said she was angry when lois lerner the head of the irs tax exempt division was scapegoating cincinnati. i was furious, it looked like lois lerner was putting it on us. >> she pled the fifth in a congressional hearing after first trying to defend herself. transcript contradict the initial narrative. >> chris: mike, thanks for that. >>> attorney general eric holtd ser giving himself a passing grade despite the justice department scandal of targeting journalists. he told lawmakers he is trying to do better but correspondent shannon bream reports, many on capitol hill aren't buying it. >> i hope would you agree that the american people deserve an attorney general who is completely focused on the fair and impartial administration of law of and justice and not distracted by controversies of his own making. >> eric holder taking heat from both sides. tough questions from senators along with a new demand from house republicans that he return to the hill on june 18th. th

we know at least the name of one in the irs targeting scandal, his name is carter hull.orks in d.c. he gave the directive to employees in cincinnati and however, we don't know who gave the order to mr. hull. now, we're one minute from the opening bell on wall street. look who is here? ladies and gentlemen, meredith whitney, author of the new book "fate of the states". i want to start with the markets. seems we've turned the corner, bad news for the markets means bad news. >> the markets come so far so fast. it's interesting when you look at economists and forecasters, they say that things happened in a compressed period of time. the outlooks for the year happened in the first six months of the year, they're never recalibrating and how can it extend into the next six months. i think it can and we're taking a breather. >> okay. >> absolutely, because, number one, there aren't many other places to invest in the world so the u.s. benefits from flow of funds. number two, if the u.s. economy is really turning around. we don't see that in new york, but definitely in the rest th

investigation elizabeth hofe finger told congressional investigators an irs lawyer in washington carter hull closely over saw her work and suggested questions to ask applicants quote i was essentially a front person because i had noah ton me or no authority to act on applications without the influence or input. the agent said she was angry when lois lerner the head of the irs was scapegoated in cincinnati. quote i was furious. it looked like lois lerner was putting it on us. >> she pled the 5th in a congressional hearing after trying to identify herself. it claimed the target on a couple agencies in cincinnati going rouge. capitol hill, mike emanuel, fox news. >>> a major warning for women to listen to. we have more proof as to why it is important for us to get a good night's sleep. there's a study that finds a bad night sleep can make heart disease in women even worse. fox's marianne rafferty has the details. >> good morning heather and patti ann. this is the first study to have low risk of coronary heart disease and death. researchers at the university of california, san francisco found ol

the targetservative group, cincinni irs employee told investigators app irs lawyer in washington, carter hull,oversaw her work and suggested questions to does, quote, was essentially a front person because i had no autonomy or no authority to agent on applications without carter's influence o input. the agent said he was angry when lois lerner was sapegoating cincinnati, quot i was furious. it looked like lois lerner put it op us. she pledthe fifth in te hearing after trying to defend herself. the transcript and interviews ntradict the initial narrative targeting a couple gentsin cincinnati going rogue. lou? lou: thank you. meanwhile, attorney genral eric holder's role in the tareting of journalists in the leak investigations, the principle topic at a haring held by the senate appropriations subcommittee. the attorney generalforced to defend his department's abuse of the first amendment leading to an admission that changes ned to be made. fox news correspondent shannon breen with the report. >> i hope you agree the american people deerve an attorney generalcomletely focused on the fir, impart

carter hull is his name, according to at least one report. >>brian: he seems elated about it. one day after sarah murnaghan was put on the waiting list for a lung, another child was put on the list. kathleen sebelius was ordered to put an 11-year-old on the list. javier has cystic fibrosis. the lawyer representing both families says you can expect more lawsuits. the board overseeing transplants holding an emergency meeting. >>> hollywood mourning the loss of esther williams who died in her sleep yesterday at her l.a. home. the swimming champion turned actress was one of the shimmering stars. technicolor water phaou kals of the 1960's. williams was -- i have no idea. that's -- she was 91 years old. >>steve: let's tell you a little bit about this. last time we joined you yesterday morning at this time, we told you all about how it appeared that the federal government was monitoring everybody who has a verizon phone. now as it turns out they're phopb toerg everybody in the -- monitoring everybody in the united states if you use a phone. they are also monitoring what you do on the