. >> carter rohan. i think the answers to that is it will the be a long time before we can -- in that area. for a number of reasons. it's not just the maintenance of the intrastrkclur. -- infra structure. if you're a rider an you feel the car demroting, that's because our trucks are outdated. their so old that they need be renovated. >> i the easy answer. >> i exeesht mr. rohan the right effort. i'm happy to leave it at that. fens thanks to both of them for their report. but i would like a report back on the eureka curve. even if it's psychological and they just don't understand why thavel before -- they talked about the other before. >> i know it's not as money as going fast through the tunnel but it has helped commuters times when we can envacation day with our service rail. they have dropped off passengers and not getting hung up with red lights and things like that. so that's the part that i always find fascinating. >> great opportunity. great opportunity. >> thank you, john. >> now that concludes t