carter last october. david: he grew up listening it the -- to it. i'm a lifelong blue grass fan, by the way, bill monroe, doc watsond queens of country music were on grand ole oply. then you had comedians like minnie pearl as well, the great median. she was the woman with the big old hat on her head which still had the price tag hanging off of it. it was a whole show. and they did it on radio. they actually described the scene on radio pretty well. that's what jimmy carter grew up listening to to. >> yeah. he knew the opry from it early days when, frankly, radio was new to today when he or anyone around the world could reach into their pocket, pull out their phone and if listen to the opry almost seven nights a week wherever you are in the world. so really jimmy carter's life parallelled that of the opry from, you know, a small beginning to really being known around the world and making a difference around the world. david: now, as a result of watching it on t, i picked up a banjo and have been a lifelong banjo player. did he pick up any instrument to go along with his joy of country music? >> i have never heard of