and she says -- and they are discussing a book by carter woodson who is known as the father of negroistory and who she knew. and she says i walked away disappointed that my name wasn't mentioned as a contributor to the lynching -- the anti-lynching campaign and i felt this was just extraordinary. this was more than racism and sexism and then i looked further and she was really left out of history by many of her peers and by many of her progressive peers. if you look at the books of jane adams, if you look at the books of dubois, of mary terrell, i'm talking about black women reformers, white women reformers, she's left out. so this is a whole other road of inquiry. was she really -- was it really significant that this campaign as i thought but, of course, it is. all the evidence that it is. and what i came to the conclusion that this was -- i mean, she does have a very -- excuse me, i have allergies that are killing me. .. wells had been very successful in the campaign by then mainly because she had gone to england twice and great triumph in the british isles. after she leaves the br

. >> down at the carter g. woodson branch of library. >> what relationship did he have with dr.and secondly, during his years of chicago what was a couple of things he was able to accomplish but i plan to get your book. but i'm just curious. >> linda could take the second part. relationship with martin luther king, well, martin luther king was his host when he spoke on november 27th in montgomery on the emmett till case. then a relatively unknown figure outside of montgomery. as i said rosa parks was in the audience. the king papers don't have much at all really before the montgomery bus boycott. there's very little in there. i know they were friends. i know that king would often tell people well, how's -- well, how is dr. howard doing? and dr. howard was certainly supportive of king. but i don't think it was -- there wasn't a close political relationship that i can see really, you know, 56, 57, 58. i mean, howard was more involved in local activities in chicago by that point. >> and shortly, the work he did in chicago, coming to chicago, most of it had to do with the medical ce