back on cartica, i express my views. i think you understand about the data we're looking for. >> does the board feel differently about this? does anybody have thoughts about where to go with cartica today? bring it back? what do they want to vote for it today? anything that the board wants to do. >> as i've heard the conversation go forward, i would like to bring you back more data in terms -- >> yes, continue. >> that's ok, commissioner. >> and thank you for your hard work. we like seeing these. but you know, we'll try to get there. >> and also you're a little bit of a victim of your own success, you've brought forward great things. >> i wanted to highlight, the rfp process. we are asked to do it. this is the results we got. generally we never respond to an rfp. we had to work ourselves into that and work ourselves. >> but you both highlighted the fact that you identified this manager earlier when they would not have gotten into our process. so we need to look at that. >>... touched on, during an rfp, staff is bound by