that's where carville takes off. so who's responsible for carville? we said the mayor of san francisco at the time. very wealthy land owner. owned at one point i think they say 1/12 of san francisco in land. most of it was in the west side of the city. robert fitzgerald was called the king of carville. he was an early settler to carville. jacob heyman that realtor, started being called the father of carville. we'll see why in a second. and this guy on the left, colonel daley, was often called the pioneer father of carville. he really gets a lot of the credit. here's colonel daley in his little shed. how do we describe him? he's sort of a 1890's bohemian, a bit of a herm yit. most importantly, he was a friend of adolph sutro's. and sutro had a real estate shack on the northwest corner of the sunset. he let colonel daley squat in there essentially. he went out every morning, walked along the beach. whatever washed up he brought back to his shed and created quite a large little compound of old bottles, shoes, anything that washed up. a ship wreck. provid

they didn't want to be called carville anymore. they wanted to be called oceanside, which sounded a lot more romantic. and so here we looked at that picture. there's a couple of car houses still around in the early 1910. but just 15 years later it really starts filling in. the stucco homes we think about in the sunset district. the merchant builders start building. the row houses start taking over in the 1920's and 1930's. and soon people start forgetting that carville was even there. the cars that do remain are kind of derelict. they've been in the elements for 20 years. they're really warn down. mostly they're rented to people who were too poor to rent to other places. so instead of these judges and lawyers and doctors renting cars you had people really on the fringes of society using them, which doesn't help the whole reputation of carville or these cars with the neighbors. they're getting beat up. this is by 1925. a lot of cars, they get pushed back in the backyards of house of lots. so somebody might build a conventional house

they were really not happy with the plumbing in carville. yeah. that shows up a lot more than anybody worried about building integrity or anything. the thing that comes up a little later and we talked a little about, these earthquake refugee cottages. after the 1906 earthquake, the relief corporation that was attending to these refugees built thousands of these small little redwood cottages for the refugees. then when the camps closed after a year, people could take the cottages to these empty lots and set them up. it was a far bigger outcry about whether those were appropriate and what the code would be because most of them weren't put on foundations. they were just dragged out to empty lots. they were combined together. sometimes lifted up off the ground even. so you'd find articles about that far more often than finding anybody having a problem with these cars which were actually pretty sturdy. we talk about they're used as public transportation all the time. they're made of some hefty material. so people weren't too worried about them. at leas

but outhouses were the big part of carville. you see these early shots. there are outhouses like right next door. >> i found out, when i moved to my current house, my house had been moved from the reservoir site at holly park to where it was. there was a woman, this was 20 years allege, who had seen the move. she was a kid. she described it coming on a wagon, pulled by a mule. it was basically being breaked by the mule. because it was coming down a hill. and that was just information in my neighborhood from a woman who had lived there for a long time as a kid. and the time is getting further and further away from when these existed. but i think the best thing is humans. and maybe tchutch societies that have senior members. >> yeah. no, if you go to almost -- almost all of our members -- we're a nonprofit organization. so we have a whole membership program. almost all of our members are these kind of people you're talking about. people who grew up in the city, are getting on in years and have these memories. they point us to a lot of other people, people t

how does carville get started? it starts with when old forms of public transportation become obsolete. now, the earliest forms of public transportation were omnibuses, which were really large coaches pulled by horses. but in the 1860's people came up with the new idea, the horse car. a horse car was essentially a little car that horses could pull but it used rails, on the ground. rails reduced traction. so horses could pull larger loads. horse cars really started taking over all across the united states in the 1860's, but they had some draw backs as you might imagine. can anybody think of something that could be a bit of a problem with horses pulling cars? yes. well, for one thing, horses were living animals and they could get sick. so some industries, some companies, lost thousands of horses to disease, which was just terrible for business. the other thing is a horse can drop up to 10 pounds of fecal matter on the street every day. so you're talking about up and down market street, tons of these cars going back an

woody can tell us about carville. >> this is the last in fact carville house. it was a community of discarded streetcars, horse pulled cars, various modes of transportation that were made obsolete by electric streetcars so cars were dumped out in the beach and sunset side and people made residences and the one is there and two cable cars and that is the upper and lower level and from the back it doesn't look like anything and they had club houses and bo hemian musicians would go out and take a dip in the obligatio ocean and romance. >> what a wonderful time. >> people didn't like it and came up with a slogan "burn the car out of carville" and they wanted traditional housing. >> wind mills. okay two in the park and one that is now restored and functioning which was the dutch wind mill and the other, the murphy wind mill which is being restored. the dutch wind mill built in 1902 and make it a high rise. >> only at the highest level. >> of human occupantacy and at the bis. >>base. >> and cost $18,000 to build and the sails are of oregon spars and intended to pump

james carville and matthew dodd weigh in. >> the big question. is it beyond where he can do anything politically for this november's elections? >>> the tide may be turning against the world's most famous flight attendant. steven slater says he wants to go back to work but they're turning up evidence that calls his story into question. saying slater was behaving badly all through the flight. we talked to one of the passengers who says he was way beyond rude. >> we'll begin with the dismal and unexpected economic news. the latest number for new jobless claims is up near its high defying analysts' expectations that the number would be going down by now. there is a lot of concern the economy could be going into reverse and david muir is here with more on that story. good morning, david. >> you're right, elizabeth. good morning. a lot of talk of the possibility of a double dip recession, a second round of all of this and many economists say they don't believe that's going to happen but they do acknowledge this huge slowdown in the recovery. and it's b

i think that's the big lock on the economy right now. >> let me bring james carville back in. the president did get those questions from brian williams about how a third of americans question whether he's a christian, a fifth now believe he is a muslim. let's show again what the president said. >> well, look, brian, i would say that i can't spend all my time with my birth certificate plastered on my forehead. it is what -- the facts are the facts. so it's not something that i can, i think, spend all my time worrying about. >> you can't blame the president for wanting this to go away. he also blamed many in the media for perpetuating these kind of myths but is there anything more he has to do affirmatively to address this or just hope that it goes away? >> i think abraham lincoln said we know the lord loves poor people because he made some of them. i think the president says we know the lord loves stupid people because he made so many of them. what can you do if somebody like contrary to every piece of evidence known to man doesn't think that he was born in the united states or

now, as james carville says, washington always wins. when you're president of the united states, you are the de facto party boss. you are the leader of your party. and so, the president, of course, has to look like that outside reformer. at the same time, though, he's got to worry about democrats in the house of representatives that he doesn't want to anger if he looks like he's too aggressively pushing charlie rangel overboard. >> does this story resonate across the country, joe? i'm here in new york, and obviously, it's a huge story here. does it resonate with voters across the country? >> charlie rangel's story resonates because it's easy for republicans challenging democrats to say, you know, the guy that they're letting run the tax committee has all these ethics charges because he doesn't pay his own taxes. that does resonate. i found in 1994 it was a lot easier to talk about dan rostenkowski's problem and jim rice's problem than to explain long-term deficits or structural debt. you saw the same thing in 2006. bush and the republic