so go back to our gas, guillermo casarez so. so professor political science, the gipsy of august foundation, he's live for us. and so paolo, brazil, of course you were listening into that very, very long speech by lula. he talked about truth over law as he talked about it being a win for democracy over dictatorship. he mentioned vaccinations, the environment, the economy, all things that he said he believed or least hinted at his predecessor, it either undermined or completely dismantled. but did he go far enough in this speech and trying to bring a divided country back together again? well, i think so if we judge exclusively by the words, it's very clear that lola wants to build the national unity government. he wants to bring people together. he wants to overcome the differences and the divisions that have li, brazilian politics over the last couple of years. and of course, words are not enough. we have 4 years ahead with a lot of hard work to do. it's not easy to walk or come to vision was like that as we've seen the united s

jean casarez, great to have you. i appreciate the new reporting, too, this hour.pondent josh campbell joining us to talk about all of this. i have a question. we know that there was an alert put out essentially from idaho saying, hey, we're looking for this white hyundai elantra with these years, it was about a week later that the suspect and his father were on their cross-country trip back to pennsylvania. he stopped twice by state police on the same day, on that drive in indiana, once for speeding, then he's given a warning for following too closely. in a statement yesterday the indiana state police said that at that time they didn't have suspect or license plate information when he was pulled over that could have helped make a connection. can you give us a better sense, josh, what is the protocol here? we send out information about this car, a similar car gets pulled over twice in a short period of time, but there's no connection made. does that surprise you at all or is it perhaps just par for the course? >> yeah, you know, in this case it is certainly chillin

we get more from cnn's jean casarez. >> reporter: the man who police say killed four college studentsuntry tracked by police will go back to idaho to face charges. >> detectives arrested 28-year-old bryan christopher kohberger. >> the four were stabbed to death november 13th in this moscow, idaho, home. >> this was a very complex and extensive case. >> dna recovered from the crime scene. a source with knowledge from the situation. kohberger's lawyer says his father flew to washington state to bring him to northeast pennsylvania for the holidays. >> his father actually went out there and they drove home together. >> reporter: they drove his white hyundai elantra, a car matching that description was in the immediate area of the killings, police said. cnn confirmed they stopped at a repair shop in pennsylvania where some work was done. >> i believe he arrived mid december. >> jason labar is representing kohberger until he is extradited. a law enforcement source says the fbi watched him for four days before he was arrested. >> authorities were there at 3 a.m. to arrest kohberger. >> repor

cnn's jean casarez has more. >> reporter: the man who police say killed four college students then weeksater drove cross-country tracked by police will go back to idaho to face charges. >> detectives arrested 28-year-old briyan christopher kohberger. >> reporter: the students were stabbed to death november 13th. >> this was a very complex and extensive case. >> reporter: dna was recovered at the crime scene. a source with knowledge of the investigation tells cnn the suspect was identified through genetic genealogy, a process where tdna is compared to a database. his father flew to washington state to bring him to northeast pennsylvania for the holidays. >> his father went out interest and they drove together. >> reporter: they drove his white hyundai elantra, a car matching the description found in the immediate area. they stopped at a repair shop in pennsylvania where some work was done on the vehicle. >> i believe he arrived somewhere around the 17th of december. >> reporter: jason lavar, the chief public defender is representing kohberger until he is extradited. a law enforcement sour

cnn's jean casarez has that, more on the arrest, and what comes next for the suspect. >> reporter: defendantberger remains right here in northeastern pennsylvania. he is housed right behind me in the monroe county correctional facility. his next hearing will be in pennsylvania on tuesday. it is an extradition hearing. he will be waiving extradition to go back to idaho. but his family is right here in northeastern pennsylvania, and they have released a statement. i want to read that to you. they say, "first and foremost, we care deeply for the four families who have lost their precious children. there are no words that can adequately express the sadness we feel, and we pray each day for them. we will continue to let the legal process unfold, and as a family, we will love and support our son and brother. we have fully cooperated with law enforcement agencies in an attempt to seek the truth and promote his presumption of innocence rather than judge unknown facts and make erroneous assumptions. we respect privacy in this matter, as our family and the families suffering loss can move forward thro

. >> cnn's jean casarez is here with more. not found the murder weapon, but they are finding more. what have they found? >> reporter: they've wanted to find the murder weapon. that's one of the things they requested, but they did find things, and remember, it was seven weeks between the time it was committed and the search of this apartment. so let's show everybody exactly what they found. they did find some blood and bodily fluids. they collected that. there were some presumptive tests at the scene to see if it was blood. they took those with them. they also found part of a mattress cover with stains, several hair strands because they obviously want to try and find the victims soeassociated h him and his apartment, an animal hair strand. kaylee had her dog. black gloves, store receipts. one was from marshalls. one was from a dickie's tag, and that's work clothes. they were able to do more forensic testing on that to try to associate him with the crime scene. that's the point, right? they did not find the knife they asked for.

. >> jean casarez is in stroudsburg, pennsylvania, outside the correctional facility where kohberger is being held. what more are we learning about him and for folks coming back from vacation, how investigators found their way to him. >> well, what we're learning about him personally is he just graduated -- this is his home, northeastern pennsylvania, he graduated in may from the area. he got his masters degree in criminal justice. we also know he just completed his first semester at washington state university, clear across the country, right next to idaho, where he is a criminal justice and criminology major. we also know he participated as an active -- an active participant in a research project this last semester at the university in regard to how emotions and psychological traits influence decisionmaking when committing a crime. now, we do know that he traveled here for the holidays. he was at his family home. it was very early morning hours of friday that the fbi, pennsylvania state police moved in, they knocked on the door. his father answered. there was cooperation. brian cam

jean casarez thank you. >>> with us is criminal defense attorney ashley merchant. you heard that list of what they got. what do you think the most important thing now is that they have in their hands? >> the glove and the hair. i think the glove is important because, if they can put any of the victims' skin cells on the glove, maybe the outside of the glove, they can test for fingerprints and skin cells on the inside of the glove. if they can find the suspect's skin cell on the glove and have the victim's skin cells on it. why would he be in that home, why would he have an item that shared skin cells. the other thing, the hair, did it have roots attached in did he have transfer dna from the victims he brought home with him. we're not just looking for blood. we're looking for transfer dna. we're to the point in science that we can get dna off skin cell. you can drop a skin cell very easily. if you shake someone's hand, you transfer your dna to their hand. that's what they're looking for, this trace-type dna. >> we know kohberger's lawyers weighed his preliminary hea

jim. >> jean casarez, thank you. >>> so what does it all mean.out this now, areva martin, good to have you on this morning. >> good morning, jim. >> so, first of all, he is not challenging his return to the state of idaho for next steps in this case. does that surprise you? and are there any differences with how this will then progress there as how it would progress if it stays in pennsylvania, at least for now? >> no surprises. when you look at statements that his attorneys has made. his attorney has stated that he's neither denied or admitted the charges. but yet he has said that he is anxious to do back to idaho to face the charges because he believes he will be exonerated. somewhat of an unusual statement coming from an attorney given the seriousness of these charges. but apparently kohberger believes he can exonerate himself. >> i think back to the beginning of this when police had said this was an isolated targeted attack, could those statements come into play at all in this case and if so how? >> they are very important statements because

>> jean casarez following the story and joins us now. how, how, how? >> this is amazing. all caught on police bodycam. i want to take you through beach grove, indiana. what happened is that the officers were called to an apartment complex because of a toddler with a gun. and so they get there, and one of the neighbors is standing right there and she begins to tell them, i saw this toddler. he was waving around a gun. a real gun. watch. >> so my son opened the door, and -- this little boy upstairs -- standing there with a firearm and i looked up and he was standing there. >> went on to say she looked through it the peephole there he was hands behind his back and points the gun says look what i've got. what she said. so officers go to the apartment. you watch them going into the apartment right now, and they said to the father, we believe your toddler had a gun is. what they're saying. we've got to search, and they searched high and low in that apartment to see if they could find any gun, and you watch that. and they didn't find anything. father said, there is no gun here.

cnn's jean casarez is in pennsylvania. jean, what else are you learning? >> reporter: we're learning a little bit more about that trip and we do want to say there is nothing we have learned that his father knew anything about what was happening allegedly with his son in idaho. it's a long drive from idaho, washington, here to pennsylvania. so common sense would say that sometimes it's better to have two people. we do understand that his father flew to the west coast, met his son. it was because it was the holidays. the doctoral courses, school was out. he came home to be with his parents this is what we are understanding what was driven from washington to pennsylvania was that hyundai electra, and we are understanding that there was a stop in pennsylvania at an auto repair store, and we have this corroborated by two people, and one said they needed to get some work done on that car which is an interesting, small, little alleged fact at this point that could become significant, right? and so the work was being done, and bryan was talking about his doctoral

cnn's jean casarez is covering this for us.ean, walk us through what happened here. >> it was a close call, but i want to walk you through the body cam video because i think that really shows it and, by the way, that little toddler was pulling the trigger and you are going to find out the gun was loaded. first of all, the officers get the call at this apartment complex that a toddler has a gun, the neighbors are calling. they go and they do a cursory search, that's them right there, the officers in the apartment, cartoons are playing, they don't find it, so they're about to leave. a neighbor then contacts them before they leave, she walks out of their apartment, look at this, and it's her ring video, and that ring video is showing this toddler minutes before that, right there, at the entranceway with the gun waving it around, pulling the trigger. the officers immediately -- we have to go back in. so they go back in the apartment. the father says i have never brought a gun into this apartment. there is no gun in here. and he ask

jean casarez joining with more. what happened here on saturday? >> the neighbors called the police because they saw this happening with their own eyes. he even went to one neighbor's door and knocked on it and say look what i have so the police arrived and the neighbors were talking amongst themselves. we want you to take a listen first of all to these neighbors. >> i opened the door he went to flip it up and i shut the door, told everyone to get away from the door. like he has a gun. >> it's a toddler in a diaper walking around with a handgun. >> it takes that long for -- >> no, no, no, i'm talking about the bleep mr. parents upstairs. >> reporter: the police go to the apartment. the little boy, the toddler answers the door, they walk in, they don't see anyone else. they do a cursory search to see if anything is in plain view. they can't find a gun so they leave and they go back down and then a neighbor says, i've got the surveillance video. you've got to watch it and so the officers look at the surveillance video and they see what was just on ou

jean casarez is in pennsylvania where kohberger remains in isolation at the correctional facility. what are the parents saying? >> well, pamela, they have released a statement and i want to read this to you. the attorney for bryan kohberger, jason labar, tells me that when he was arrested friday morning and the family is telling him about 3:00 in the morning, but brian labar tells me what happened was they wept to the front door and that bryan's father actually answered the door. it was law enforcement. we know it was the fbi. we know it was pennsylvania state police. it was in the middle of the night. we also are told that he was very cooperative. he brought his son bryan to the front door. bryan was cooperative and that is when they took him into custody. i want to read you now the statement that is from the family. they say, first and foremost, we care deeply for the four families who have lost their precious children. there are no words that can adequately express the sadness we feel and we pray each day for them. we will continue to let the legal process unfold, and as a famil

jean casarez, cnn, new york. >> unbelievable.un reform activist, his daughter, jamie, was killed in the parkland school shooting in 2018. he's also the co-author of the book kwg out soon "american carnage: shattering the myths that fuel gun violence." fred, you were on my mind as soon as i saw this story. to see the image of a toddler wearing a diaper waving around a handgun -- what goes through your mind? >> two days ago my friends kristen and mike song celebrated their son ethan's 20th birthday at a cemetery. their son was killed within about a month of jamie because he went to play at a friend's home with an unlocked gun. and what's on my mind is this -- they have spent the years since tirelessly pushing politicians to just simply do something about irresponsible gun owners and the need to lock up guns. the gun safety group brady has an end family fire program. they had worked tirelessly to encourage people across this country to safely lock up their guns. so what goes through my mind is how annoyed i am at the politicians who

cnn's jean casarez is outside the courthouse where kohberger appeared.ht following his appearance in court? >> reporter: well, he signed the papers, the extradition papers in court. so then the judge declared that he would be extradited to idaho. but that is the last we've heard. no one will confirm if he is still in pennsylvania, if he is in flight at all. if he is remaining here for the next few days. no one is confirming that. so we'll just have to wait because there are safety concerns and they have publicly told us on the record that they just don't want that released at this point because of all of those potential issues. >> you were sitting right behind his family in the courtroom i understand. what was their reaction? >> reporter: very emotional. stunned. they walked in. his mother was just distraught. she was sitting there. and when he walked in, he looked at his family but he looked directly at his father. and he acknowledged him. seriously. but his head was acknowledging him. he sat with his public defender, the chief public defender, turned a

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jean casarez, monroe county, pennsylvania. >>> as jean just mentioned, kohberger's father is cooperating with authorities but there are still questions to be resolved about his actions as cnn's senior law enforcement analyst charles ramsey explains. >> the father flew out and drove back with him. the question is why? that's a long drive. that's over 2,000 miles. that's not something you would do for no reason. did he feel like his son was upset? had he told him something that caused him to actually fly out just to drive back with him? we need to know that. we also need to know what did they talk about? that's a long drive. i don't think they sat silently in the car for 2500 miles. what did they talk about? there's nothing to indicate the father knew anything about the murders, but certainly that's a line of questioning that you would have to follow as an investigator. >> the public defender told cnn he's not sure how quickly his client will be extradited after tuesday's hearing but he expects it will be within 72 hours. >> interesting also that they've elected to waive the extradition he

jean casarez is in pennsylvania with more on kohberger's arrest and what happens next. but we start with veronica miracle in the relieved community of moscow, idaho, where the police chief says he has no regrets about the way his department handled the investigation. >> reporter: there has been such a sense of relief in this community now that the suspect has been arrested. of course, it doesn't change the fact that four gruesome murders took place in this seemingly safe town in this rural college community, but now that there has been an arrest we have heard from people who just feel such relief, in fact, one business owner came by here to the moscow police department to drop off a gift, he was so grateful. he says this community of course has been impacted emotionally, everyone has been on edge for the last seven weeks, but it's also impacted the economy. he's a business owner and his employees are students as are most of the businesses in this town. there's other businesses who have been impacted where students have left because they just don't feel safe being in thi

cnn's jean casarez is in pennsylvania with more on the suspect's arrest and what happens next. >> reporterbryan kohberger remains right here at the monroe county correctional facility, and we do know that it was on friday in the early morning hours that he was arrested at his family's home in brightsville, pennsylvania, a small town about ten miles away from here, but what has been not known is exactly what happened at the time of his arrest. the chief public defender for monroe county told me after speaking with his parents that happened. >> his father, michael, answered the door, and he was cooperative from that point forward. >> reporter: and then bryan came to the door? >> yes, and bryan was also very cooperative. he went with state police to the barracks, i don't think there were any issues and he was cooperative. >> reporter: i asked the chief public defender for monroe county, pennsylvania, if he had all talked to his client about having a psychological assessment at this point because defense attorneys many times want to get that mental state right from the beginning. he said he sp

that's where we find our colleague jean casarez who joins us live outside the jail where he's currently being held. good morning, jean. so much happened on this over the weekend. we're hearing from the suspect's family and also the attorney, the public defender that he's been appointed. what have you learned. >> reporter: that is correct. we are getting word from his family now. they have released a statement to cnn. we'd like to read that statement to you. it says, first and foremost, we care deeply for the four families who have lost their precious children. there are no words that can adequately express the sadness we feel, and we pray each day for them. we will continue to let the legal process unfold, and as a family we lo love and support our son and brother. we have fully cooperated with law enforcement agencies in an attempt to seek the truth and promote his presumes of innocence rather than judge unknown facts and maker roane yous assumptions. we respect privacy in this matter as our family and the families suffering loss can move forward through the legal process. that arrest

jean casarez has more. >> reporter: police in beach grove, indiana, respond to a 911 call.n the hallway of an apartment complex. when police arrive a neighbor tells them, it was a toddler holding a gun. >> my son opened the door and this little boy upstairs was standing there with a firearm. >> reporter: police make their way to the apartment at january 14th at 6:13 p.m. >> hello, police. >> reporter: police say it was the toddler wearing only a diaper who opened the door. a man enters from a back room. >> we're here because the downstairs neighbors said they saw your son running around with something they thought was a silver handgun. >> reporter: the man shane osborne said he didn't know the child left the apartment. he further advised there was no handgun in the apartment. the officers do a cursory search. nothing in plain view so leave with one last comment to osbornee. >> you might want to do a better job of locking your door. >> i will. >> reporter: as police are leaving the apartment the first neighbor insists the toddler was waving a real gun. >> that baby had a gun

our jean casarez spoke with the public defender over the weekend and here is what he had to say. >> he's doing okay. he's shocked a little bit. obviously he's calm right now. you know, we don't really know much about the case. >> now your client is highly educated, very intelligent, he has to appreciate the seriousness of what is happening right now. >> oh, absolutely, he's very intelligent. in my hour conversation with him, that comes off. i could tell that. and he understands where we are right now. >> reporter: and jessica, despite the fact that his father took him on that cross-country trip on that white hyundai elantra and there is no reason that his father is implicated in these killings at this time. jessica. >> thank you for that update. >>> powerful winter storms could make travel treacherous after storms drenched the san francisco area over the weekend. chad myers has a look at the forecast. and what part of the country is most at risk today. >> for severe weather, the south and mid south and then for snow and ice, parts of nebraska and iowa. a messy system rolling out ever roc

>> jean casarez, thank you very much. i want to turn now to former secret service agent jonathan lackro. no surprise the family is reminding people their son is innocent until proven guilty. what more could we learn from that? >> we're going to learn a lot from that probable cause statement once it's released. you have to think this is a very complex investigation that started back with the crime scene processing, which was very difficult. we had four victims, multiple features at that crime scene, the collection of forensic evidence at the time. so all of the pieces that we have questions on that are lingering are going to start to be put together once we read that affidavit. we're going to get clearer insight as to the connection of the dna evidence and how that was linked directly to this suspect and potentially the techniques that they utilized to make that linkage. so we're going to, you know, garner a lot of information, but i think there's an important point here that law enforcement is still asking for the public'

cnn's jean casarez joins us now with more. what is the family saying? >> reporter: hi, pamela.l and i've got it statement and i want you to hear it. the attorney for bryan kohberger tells me that his family is not allowed to visit him at the correctional facility, which is where he's housed right behind me. so the very last time they did see him was on the early morning hours of friday because he was arrested at the family home. and the attorney tells me his father is actually the one that answered the door. they now have released that statement and i want to read it to you. it says first and foremost we are deeply -- we care deeply for the four families who have lost their precious children. there are no words that can adequately express the sadness we feel, and we pray each day for them. we'll continue to let the legal process unfold, and as a family we will love and support our son and brother. we have fully cooperated with law enforcement agencies in an attempt to seek the truth and promote his presumption of innocence rather than judge unknown facts and make erroneous assu

jean casarez joins us outside in pennsylvania. >> reporter: a simple procedure right here at the courtlace legally speaking an extradition hearing is where the commonwealth of pennsylvania has to allow someone within their borders to go to another state to face criminal charges, and it's constitutionally important. it's important that the judge see the defendant so he can voluntarily show that he is agreeing to do that. now, here's what's interesting, because normally when you have any type of proceeding with a criminal defendant at a courthouse, there's sometimes an underground garage they drive through to park and get him in the courthouse so nobody sees him or an underground tunnel between the jail and the courthouse. they don't have that here. so they are going to have to take him from the correction facility and really just bring him to one of the entrances here. now, what we're understanding is that they may drape the entrance so the public cannot see him, as he gets out of the car and walks in. however, the judge is allowing pool cameras to be right there in the hallway next to

cnn gene casarez is following this story. how did police find the gun?ddler in diapers pointed at a desk that had a roll top cover and they opened it up and there it was. you know, the way this started was that the neighbors called 911 saying that there is someone in the hallway that has a gun and they got there and the neighbor said it's a toddler in diapers waving the gun. the police said are you sure this is not a toy gun? no. the lady says. the neighbor actually said i sell guns and i know this was a real gun and i think it's a .9 gun. so they go to the apartment. they do a cursory search of that apartment. they find nothing in plain view but shane osborne comes out and by the way the little toddler is the one that let them in, he comes out and he says just as you said, i've never brought a gun into this apartment. now, my cousin has brought a gun and sort of keeps it here sometimes when he is mentally not feeling as strong as he should but to my knowledge, there is no gun in here at all so they didn't find anything and left. they're about to go out

jean casarez joins us now with more.in the documents because of the probable cause affidavit was so specific, they saw no reason to not unseal this. and so that is how we had this information. so, they believe that the residence of bryan kohberger was extremely important because they believe that he possibly could have gone straight there after, in their view, committing these crimes and so here is what they found at the house. we want to show everyone. it looks -- you see a lot of forensic information here that their exploring. there are cuttings. there are blood stains. the dark red cuttings, the part of a mattress, several hair strands, to see if that apartment has any evidence of those victims in that apartment right there. night rate gloves and a clothing company, now let's look at what they wanted to find. this is what they asked for. they asked about things such as the clothing, such as the knife, they asked for things such as an drawings or indications of planning on that part. they did take, which is interesting

jane casarez is with us. >> reporter: the man who police say killed four college students and weeks laterry tracked by police will go back to idaho to face charges. >> detectives arrested 28-year-old bryan christopher kohberger. >> reporter: ethan chapin, xana kemodle, madison mogen and kaylee k kaylee goncalves. identified through genetic genealogy compared to a public database leading to a family member of a suspect. kohberger's lawyer says his father flew to washington state to bring him to northeast pennsylvania for the holidays. >> his father actually went out there and they drove home together. >> reporter: they drove his white hyundai elantra. a car matching that description was in the immediate area of the killings, police said. cnn confirmed they stopped at a repair shop in pennsylvania where some work was done on the vehicle. >> i believe he arrived somewhere around the 17th of december. >> reporter: jason labar, chief public defender for monroe county, pennsylvania, is representing kohberger until ex-etra die extradited. the fbi watched him four days before being arrested. >> i

. >> and mary ellen, we heard from jean casarez earlier that the suspect shared moments with his familyo his family, nodding to them multiple times. is there any rulebook for how people accused of heinous crimes behave in court? is there anything you can read into that? >> no, there really isn't. we've had a range of behavior in crimes over the years. and offenders will come in, and they see their family there, and it makes them feel good, they need the support, they want the support. so they have a response that they will give. in other cases we've had offenders take the respond and get married in the courtroom. we've had offenders pass out and feign heart attacks in the courtroom. so there's no rule book for any of this. >> joey, were you surprised that he didn't fight extradition? >> i was not. especially if he's defending and he says that he's looking forward to being exonerated. it's really difficult to really match that narrative. you look forward to being exonerated, yet you want to delay your movement to the state at issue, idaho, so that you can fight extradition. so again, tha

jean casarez is here with me. and the video is terrifying. what happened here?take everybody through it as it happened. the police were called to an apartment complex because the neighbors were saying there is a toddler in diapers and he's waving a gun and he's pulling the trigger. and so they arrived and the neighbor that had called police, she met them at the door. listen to what she had to say. >> so my son opened the door, and the little boy upstairs standing there with a firearm and i looked out at the peep hole and he was standing there. >> so that was a 9 millimeter pistol. so they immediately go to the apartment and they walk in, and they do a cursory search, plane v plain view, they did not see anything but they see shane osborne come out and he is head, i was a sleep. i didn't even know he went out of the door. his mother is really sick and i'm with him today. but i've never brought a gun into here. i doe i don't have a gun. i have a cousin that sometimes leaves his gun here in his own room when he feels mentally disturbed and they didn't see the gun s

jean casarez is at the courthouse. what more could we learn today in court and afterwards?porter: that is the thing about a legal proceeding. er y-- you never know what you'e going to see. they're going to state his name and make sure that he was associated close to the crime scene obviously before this commonwealth of pennsylvania will allow him to be extradited. but he is in the courthouse now. and i think we have some video. he arrived in just the last 20 minutes. very big police presence here. all morning. roads are shut. and they don't have an underground way to get him into the courthouse. so i think you're looking at the video now when he exited the transport vehicle. and there was some media around there. we were able to capture with his orange jail garb on. he was cuffed. he walked in very briskly. did not answer any questions as the media was asking him things. now we do know that his whole family will be here. they are from northeastern pennsylvania, not too far from here. mother and father and his two sisters. but they will not be allowed to visit with him or ta

jean casarez is watching this. what has happened in court. >> very important.june 26th is going to be the probable cause hearing. this is very important because this is where the prosecutor has to put on evidence to show exactly what they have and then if they have enough, the case would be bound over for trial. but the defense could cross-examine, we may learn more at this point we just have the affidavit. and yesterday i was speaking to a former fbi attorney, 20 years, he was with the fbi, he was the co-founder of the forensic genetic genealogy division of the fbi and i asked him, isn't there more than what is in this probable cause affidavit? i specifically asked him about dna at the scene. >> very well could be. i don't know. it didn't indicate whether or not he was wearing gloves. it leads me to believe if they found dna on the button of the knife sheath that he was not wearing gloves. so in that case, very, very likely that he perhaps touched the door to get in and out of residence, the door to the other rooms. >> so it is things like this that we could e