casey: mr. president, thank you very much. i didn't plan on responding to my colleague from kansas and i won't today but i still think on health care we have a long way to go. there is still a lot of work to be done in the committee i'm a member of, the health, education, labor, pension committee and still a lot of work on the finance committee in health care. but if a general sense, i think what we're all trying to do -- i know my colleagues on the democrat side are trying to do this -- make sure at the end of this debate that the bill that emerges from the congress has a couple of basic principles. one, it gives people choice in their health care. if you like what you have, you get to keep it, if you don't like what you have, you have a choice; that the bill also reflects a cost reduction which is essential if we're going to move forward; and finally we provided kind of quality, affordable health care every american has the right to respect we would try to provide in this bill. if we keep that in mine, we can get to the ri

anyway, this is a subject matter, senator casey has said has been around for a long time. it's not going to go anywhere. this debate is here. lisa, i see you. >> you have suggested this isn't necessarily the solution and it may not be the solution for the high costs that we experience with health care, but i think it has to be viewed as a piece of it. when i met with a group of doctors when i was home on friday, we would kind of go around the room saying okay, within your practice, what are the things that you can do, that we can do, you can do from your side and we can do from the federal side that would help reduce the health care costs that we experience here in anchorage, alaska. and whether they are a family practitioner or whether they are an orthopedic surgeon, their response was we've got to get ahold of what's going on with the medical malpractice, and not one of them in that room had had a situation where they had -- there had been a claim that had been filed against them that went against their record, if you will, or against their good name, but they pay for it

brown: i want to make a couple comments on my -- senator casey's comments. and he is -- we sit next together on the health, education, labor, pension committee nearby the presiding officer from oregon, and senator casey reminds us almost every day that as we work on this health care bill, that he reminds us that no child should be worse off and that's something that, frankly, all of us need to hear, that every member of this body and the house of representatives needs to hear, and i appreciate senator casey's work on that because it really is -- really is our mission here to do this right. and one of the most important dictums is that no child is worse off. so i thank my friend from pennsylvania. we spend more than $2 trillion a year on health care in this country, more than double that of any other industrial nation. americans account for more than 35 million hospital visits, more than 900 million office visits every single year, more than 64 million surgical procedures are performed, more than 3.5 billion prescriptions are written. health care is in dollar

casey and mr. penrod to think of those as well. >> if you will injud judgjudg j you live -- indulge me where katrina. i was with the federal administrator and they were there hand-in-hand with me, shoulder to shoulder within three days after after that storm and i will tell you that everything that came from that storm was in an expedited mode. now, whether or not there was any sort of an expedite division available at federal highways, it proved one thing and that is that federal highway administration can expedite, and the stimulus package comes along and we find out that we've got to have projects ready to go in 90 days, shovel-ready to go to contract in 120 days with benchmarks along the way. and every one of owes benchmarks and every one of those conditions, you know, have been laid out there through federal highway administration working with the departments of transportation so indeed there is a way and a reason for an expedite division, if you will. the other area that needs focus in my opi

casey. mr. penrod. >> i am executive director of the pittsburgh national airport which handles a .7 million passengers per year and had general aviation facility. i'm here representing air force council and would like to thank the committee for the prior a place on aviation this year including the passage of multi-year faa reauthorization which include an increase in the passenger facility charge to $7. committee's decision to distribute $1.1 billion in stimulus funding using the faa process is proving to be successful. and explains why the faa was able to report on june 5th of all the $5 million of $1.5 billion is authorized. vice president biden noted in march this money will create new jobs now but also investment in long-term safety at airports in their economic viability. at the allegheny county airport and $2 million in stimulus money will be used to renovate taxiways and reconfigure aircraft to do air coming this facilities in the rams' based. construction is scheduled to begin the week o

as you were describing the casey case and katherine colbert's arguments, it sounded like she was really confrontational. she was combative and this is the argument i want to make and despite all your efforts to get me to deviate from these arguments i'm going to stick to my guns here. and in contrast, charles' description of bush versus gore and his quotes from ted olson suggest if the justices suggest they want to go in a direction you're going to follow them in that direction so how do you reconcile this? is your case the anomaly here or how can we best understand oral? >> if you know katherine colbert, you know that she is stubborn. and she was and she remains very committed to her cause. so if you keep in mind that this was as much a political adventure as it was a jurisprudence enterprise and katherine knew what was on the line. it was a high risk. she was really rolling for a major loss if she either offended kennedy or o'connor because she clearly needed both of them. and from the excerpts that we played for our audience, it's clear that both of them came into the arguments skept

. >> senator casey? >> aye. >> senator hagen? >> no. >> senator enzi? >> know. >> senator gregg? >> no. >> senator alexander? >> no by proxy. >> senator byrd? >> no by proxy. >> senator mccain? >> aye by proxy. >> senator coburn? senator roberts? >> no. >> aye by proxy. >> did senator coburn vote? has he voted? >> no . >> senator bingham votes no by proxy. >> senator sanders, did you get that? >> yes. >> did you get that? all right. >> vote is ten ayes. >> it is not agreed to. all i can say is my nose counting was correct. >> it sure was. where are we here at this point now? are there any additional amendments? >> mr. chairman? >> senator casey. >> i just wanted to get back to the fraud and abuse section for a couple of moments. i know senator enzi had some comments before. we were dealing with senator mccain's amendment so i wanted to just respond to a couple of things. first of all, i wanted to commend the way senator enzi, along with our chairman has conducted himself in this whole process over these many days and weeks, and grateful for the way he approached this bill, as dif

paul casey, how much money? >> i'm going to put $10 on paul casey.s won three times already this year, but he hasn't really been there in a major championship. but because of his past, put $10 in his camp. >> no top five in a major yet. sergio? >> i'm going $4.99 on sergio. he's had an amazing year. not a single top ten in the pga tour. this is player you think would contend every single week. he's been a bit of a struggle so far. >> 0-42 thus far in the majors. geoff ogilvy, i've got early advanced warning, blue horseshoe loves him. >> we're going $40 here. two wins already. he's won a u.s. open. he's walked down the 72nd hole knowing he had a chance to win an open. >> hasn't missed a cut all year. can do everything you'd want. this guy is streaky. >> i'm going $30. i love the way he's playing. >> high risk. >> i love the way he played at the t.p.c. >> hasn't been in the 60s or made a cut since he won. >> doesn't matter. >> that was an immaculate round. he played to win. there and jim furyk, $15.01 left. you can't put it on a gift certificate. how m

but casey and i were together -- not together. we were on opposite stations on cleveland before he really made it big and he is one of the nicest guys. reds have the lead-off batter on. >> rob: when you hear somebody's voice, can you tell right after who it is? >> johnny: just about. -- right off who it is? >> johnny: just about. >> rob: you you want to -- you want to give me one? >> rob: no. i have trouble of trouble with my voice. >> johnny: i'm interesting, the year you had arm surgery, you didn't play at all did you? >> rob: i was rehabbing in '94 in august when we went on strike. so, that was a bad year to get hurt. not that any year is a good year to get hurt. >> johnny: nobody wins strikes do they? >> rob: free agent, i had reconstructive surgery on my shoulder and i was on strike in august. you live. you learn. >> johnny: wil nieves will go out and talk to lannan with jonny gomes at first. >> rob: that is why i talk about these young kids. it is not about the money strasburg will earn. when his team is ready, you bring him

casey? would you like to comment? >> i would just deco mr. brown's response in that regard. we have not had been a problem and for the region -- recommend region 34 recruit -- approving your projects to be with my testimony 70% of the dollars have been awarded through me and we anticipate awarding 100% through the end of the calendar year and again in the fda region has been extremely cooperative to get the projects moving. >> mr. penrod? >> mr. chairman just as the colleagues have said so in me from my personal experience in the aviation airport business we have an abundant program that we track closely the local share on the typical routine projects are tracked and audited closely so it is another opportunity in our case put $12 million of your money to good work. and it was not problematic and four other airports and has not been an issue across the country. 100% bonds means 100% participation and that is the least we can do. >> very good. mr. keating your associates at this and gravel, stone, aggregate business, from the time the bill passed the house, and your associate

. >> senator casey. >> thank you mr. chairman, and mr. ambassador we are grateful for your service and your testimony today. i wanted to raise primarily to issues, maybe three but the first one centers on china. i was noticing in your statement in pertinent part he said china has important role to play influencing the path north korea follows. you spoke of your trip and china shared, quote, deep concern about north korea's recent actions to turn the commitment to effective implementation of security council resolutions. i was going to ask about resolution 1718 passed in october, 2006 and enforcement thereof since of the past as you know and we can easily track this, china's aid and trade and investment in north korea has expanded how can the obama administration and you are playing a central role on this encourage china to enforce u.s. sanctions and take a more assertive posture towards north korea. any thoughts on that? >> i think what happened with regard to 1718 and this is no excuse, but what happened is soon after that was passed we

senator dodd has talked about that on a number of occasions, senator casey and hagen talked about it about what the effect of a really good wellness program would be. i know there's consensus around the table that we should attempt to do that. senator conrad has been the leader on the issue of debt in this government and the fact in a his term debt is the threat is the watch word for us. at least he's got the point down. was advised by cdo and myself in a letter, that the rising cost of health care will cause federal spending to grow, putting the federal budget on an unsustainable path. it is on an unsustainable path -- >> we have 12 members presents. i think the amendment that senator mikulski and enzi, i ask unanimous consent they be adopt. >> so ordered. >> that's a good start, mr. chairman. >> we've gotten five done. we're debating now senator gregg's amendment, number 35. >> right. >> so this amendment addresses that issue of spending. because as we know, this bill has been scored only a sixth of the bill has been scored because the cdo didn't have a full score, a score that inc

way they were going to have the kind of political argument they fashioned going in. >> that part of casey's or unusual. i would think there were two goals being pursued by the attorney. are there other instances where the lawyers arguing the case have a goal beyond the litigation that is being deliberate. >> most of the time when the case gets in the supreme court it's rare because the court gets something like 8,000 petitions and decide 75. i think most lawyers understand what they are doing is not simply getting a resolution of a fight between party a and b. another case that occurs was the 2005 decision in which the court validated taking away the woman's home and connecticut said they could build a big economic different the was going to support the pfizer pharmaceutical giant. in that case it was clear both sides went into the argument not only hoping to win this litigation between these parties but to establish a larger principle and so in that sense i would say the supreme court arguments given how few there are, given what the court is willing to hear almost every case has a seconda

we'll ask senator casey to give us opening thoughts on the abuse and fraud section. so we'll complete that part of the process. once we complete the four amendments on workforce we can move directly to the amendments on use and fraud. >> i'm honored to have a chance to review this section. i want to commend the staff. they've done, as they do on every section, great work. i was -- as a state official, both the auditor general and the treasurer. auditor general for eight years. state treasurer for two. in that decade, had the opportunity to be involved in a lot of audits and investigations and reviews some of them involving these issues of waste, fraud and abuse. the way i look at this i think is the way we all look at it. waste and fraud and abuse is not just a bad thing for our system, for our health care system, it's a lot more serious than that. i believe that every instance of waste, fraud and abuse, no matter what it is, no matter what the dollar amount, represents a taking, almost like a thief in the night, taking resources from individual people that might imp

you know, sheltering children, as bob casey said, that's important.just modified schip and rejected a senate amendment that would have covered all of those kids and not raised taxes at all. yet we've got 16 million kids out there today that are eligible for schip and medicaid and they're not on the roll. why? because we're not listening to the patient. we're not listening to what we're doing wrong and we're getting ready to make the same mistake again. 16 million of them. so why are e.r.s loaded with kids with an ear infection when they're already medicaid-eligible? because we haven't oversighted and neither have the states in terms of enrolling those people to where they have a primary care. and we have a medicare payment system that says, if you're a medical student you graduating in this country, you don't want to go into primary care because there's a 300% payment differential versus you spending another year or two in training, you'll make 300% more. so only the most altruistic of our physicians go into primary care. it's obviously not about mone

. >> senator casey. >> no. >> senator jenkins. >> no. >> senator berkeley. >> no. >> senator whitehouse. >> no. >> senator encely. >> aye. >> senator greggg. >> no. >> senator alexander. >> [ inaudible ]. >> senator mccain. >> [ inaudible ]. >> senator hatch. >> no by proxy. >> senator mutuali in in ing -- >> no by proxy. >> test eign ayes, 13 nays. >> number 72. >> coburn amendment number 72. >> mr. chairman? since we decided we didn't like my idea of sending it all back to states, what this is is a compromise that says, perhaps we would allow hersa to contract in the states for states to put all -- funnel all their stuff into their three most areas of acute short aage. all we're saying with this is, whatever the title is that we've got, whatever we do, this allows hersa to form a contract with the state to funnel all these monies into their three or more acute shortages. we still get money into the state but we add some flexibility into the state based on differing state needs. i think this will give flexibility to accomplish what senator murray is trying to accomplish. it still has c

senator casey? senator haguin'? senator berkeley? >> no by proxy. >> senatorwhitehouse. >> senator gray? senator alexander? >> aye by proxy. >> senator isaacson? >> senator mccain? >> aye by proxy. >> senator coburn in. >> aye by proxy. >> senator roberts? chairman kennedy? >> no by proxy. >> the vote is 10 ayes, 13 neys. >> the amendment is defeated. and you were very persuasive. i'm shoe there will be more work done on this before we're through. senator alex and her an amendment. i know senator sanders has an amendment and senator harkin has amendment number two which goes to the investment of funds. since we're on that subject matter as his -- here's what i'm going to do. it's noon. the idea would be -- we'll go into the half hour. we won't have any -- i won't ask for -- unless we can wrap the things up in 20 minutes. senator coburn has three amendments. others as well. i point out again that thanks to the work of senator harkin and senator enzi's staff and others involved in this. there were 50 amendment that's were agreed to out

>> i echo what nor casey said. many people voted to repeal or make more exemptions in the estate tax. and that's roughly $1 trillion that goes to the top .3. it makes the very, very wealthiest people even richer. 99.7% of the people don't get a nickel. i think within that context, putting $8 billion into prevention which will shift the paradigm in america in my view, keep people healthy long term cut health care costs is an excellent investment.

casey you also spoke about the importance of being able to pair off some operating funds so that you would have to make other kinds of cuts in the system -- can you speak to that? >> septa are not in a situation that some of the transit agencies are. we have a multi sources of funds so it is not in one basket if you will. and some of the other agencies are relying heavily either on the sales tax or the realty transfer tax have taken a hit in the last. because it is a solo funding source there are really being impacted and you can read it across the nation all the major transit agencies are having some type of budget deficiencies. >> thank you. mr. penrod, i appreciate in your testimony that when you describe particular projects you also describe the direct and indirect jobs that are being created using their recovery act funds and i think some form for us to keep our eye on that and especially in some of our states facing tremendous unemployment. also in your testimony you cite that detroit airport project in sevareid from two years to one year and the san jose airport project that w

casey blake, a home run. he entered play hitting .342 since manny was suspended. ichiro with two hits. he's now reached base sufficiently in 53 of his last 54 games. >> we told you about milton bradley. you heard what lou piniella had to say. in case you forgot -- >> those who live in glass houses should not throw stones, right? >> bradley, let's put it this way, he's had his share of onfield incidents. >> all right. we've moved past milton bradley, and we're talking about the angels and d'backs right now. the angels put up eight runs in the second inning and have not looked back. the eight runs in the second the most they've scored in any inning this season. >> padres in town for three with the rangers. 9-1 texas. hank blalock likes what he sees. his 14th of the year. texas wins its third straight. kevin millwood gets career win number 150 for the rangers. >> a.l. central-leading tigers putting their seven-game win streak on the line against the astros. top nine, tigers down 5-4. latroy hawkins gets the ground out. astros hang on to win 5-4, and s detroit's seven

casey kelly for salem, boston's number 1 pick last year.inst ryan matusz, the orioles' number 1 pitch last year. neither pitcher gave up a run, they are now scoreless in the 8th. of course, coming up on tuesday, it is this year's amateur draft that joe jordan and his staff very busy at trying to scour the country to come up with who will be that number 1 pick. the orioles have the fifth pick in the first round. i spoke to joe at the ballpark and asked him his philosophy about the type of player that the orioles look for when they go into the draft. >> i told the staff the day i came in here that we're going to look for athlete, look for tools but look for those two things with guys that are also baseball players. >> you have the fifth pick which means only four players will be gone. >> uh-huh >> we pretty much know who going to be number 1. so that leaves three other players. will you line it up with your staff, one, two, three, four, five and the other guys gone, that's who you pick or do you readjust? >> no, we line up the first five. and

casey blake hit his 11th home run. he's 2 for 2. blake entering play .342 hitter since manny ramirez was suspended. ichiro 1 for 2 reaching base safely in 53 of his last 54 games. >> angels and d'backs, angels put up an eight-spot in the second inning, most runs they've scored in any inning this season. now lead arizona 9-3. billy buckner gave up eight earned and 7 hits in 1 2/3 innings. the angels right now in good shape, up 9-3 in the fifth inning. torii hunter a two-run home run for the angels. >> start of a nine-game home stand for the rangers. the padres in town for three. bottom four, rangers up 9-1. hank blalock, get outta here. his 14th of the season. texas goes on to win 12-3. padres have lost 13 of their last 15 interleague road games. >>> nhl draft, the islanders took center john tavares with the first pick friday. tavares led the ontario hockey league with 58 goals this season. he also broke the ohl's record for career goals. he's the isles fourth overall number 1 pick. pick >> the flyers have acquired defenseman chris p

bill casey so they should not have been surprised because he had mentioned it in a briefing months earlier it is reminiscent of her current interrogation techniques. essentially, the chief of the cia failed to make mention of of the mining testimony and buried the lead. he did not tell members explicitly what had been going on. there were furious when they found out. garn exploded back at the numbers, alleging that it had broken down along the local party lines. that is what prompted the outburst. host: you used this incident as a launching point to talk about the current discussion over who knew what about the treatment of detainees. a sidebar to your article says that the cia typically gives a 1100 briefings to the members of congress. it seems like congress should be getting all they need to know from the cia, but from your article that is not the case? guest: what happens is that these briefings are mostly mundane matters. sensitive matters happen and closed briefings. concerning waterboarding, these were extraordinary briefings which were rare. the entire length of the program over ro

i chose the casey decision that was decided in 1992. beginning with justice o'connor's ascension to the bench, it was clear in the roe vs. wade decision establishing a woman's right to have abortion, was under siege. each time an new opinion came out, the court appeared to be less committed to sustaining the right to terminate an abortion and it finally got to the point where the majority was down to 5. five-4. there were indications in 1989 that there might be a vote, and the administration had tried several times to persuade the court to overturn the ruling. i chose this particular case for oral arguments because of the audacity of the council who argued in favor of maintaining growth. the women's rights movement, very much hearing was in jeopardy, shaved this case into a genuine test case. everyone was a test of the new principal. this was put together by the women's rights movement as a fundamental test of a viable precedent. we put together the brief, we asked the simple question, it was entirely unlike any question you will see at

my name is joseph casey representing we provide to is rotation in the southeastern pennsylvania area but there also representing the american transit authority representing private businesses. private -- publix 23 phase-in can reduce our dependency on oil improve the environment and achieving sustainability and improving the economy. with the increasing price of gasoline over the last couple of years, the market has rediscovered public transportation. at this recording last year 10 .3 billion trips taken on public transportation the highest in the last 50 years, spta has seen a similar increase our writer ship has increased 12% and even though prices dropped last year the writer should remain strong and recede another three percent over last year. the american recovery and reinvestment act is critical to mass-transit prior to enactment and over 200 and providers their 800 projects totaling 16 billion that was shovel ready as you know, the american recovery and reinvestment act allocated 50% of the funds that are obligated currently waiting approval. spta share of the funds totals $19

casey. one decision that hasn't gone unnoticed but deserves more importance is the case of the seminal, intellectual property case in which justice sooter addressed the issue of file share and it was ironic that this was an opinion authored by sooter, who fashioned himself of a man of the 19th century. he had a chance to apply long-standing legal documents to a technological document, and i think he got that exactly right. i think justice sooter's legacy will be the impact he has had on the confirmation process. certainly when justice sooter was first nominated by the first president bush he was famously characterized by a home run for conservatives. i think it is safe to say he wasn't. i don't know if he was a single or double, but certainly aspect will have long-term ramifications when we have seen it in president obama's decision to nominate judge sotomayor. there were a number of factors playing into the decision but one may be judge sotomayor may had a long track record and her service

greg burke strikes out matt kemp, casey blake picked off trying to steal third. correia gets the win on three days' rest. he retired the final 15 batters he faced. keith fell gets his 18th save, top in the majors and the padres get their first win at dodger stadium this year. >> biggie as small as might have said it best. "when i was dead broke, i couldn't picture this." ah, to be in college. a few months back mark sanchez was a college student playing quarterback at u.s.c. on april 25th he became an nfl player, drafted fifth overall by the new york jets. on wednesday, he became a very wealthy man. sanchez according to chris mortensen has agreed to a five-year deal worth $50 million, 28 of it guaranteed, the quarterback with a record-setting performance. in the rose bowl. >> tuesday espn's ed werder reported the vikings gave brett favre a deadline to report to off-season workouts this week if he wanted to play for minnesota this season. wednesday, coach brad childress said unless favre's wife wants him out of the house, the team did not set a deadline. >> was the

senator casey? >> let me just add a couple of comments here. this is a difficult process and those who have been here longer than i have know how difficult probably more than i have a full appreciation for. today and yesterday we're still on inequality, is that correct? >> that's correct. >> we're doing quality today. we're nowhere near getting to coverage. we're a ways from that. i understand the concern about having -- having information. we're not on coverage yet. we're still on quality and still a lot of work to do on this, but i know one thing, the american people want us to move. they don't want us to delay. they don't want us to slow down. they want us to move and get something done here. so, i realize it is difficult and i realize people want more information but if we are still on quality today we can make progress on quality but the last thing they want us to do is sit back and slowdown. they want us to get this done as fast as we can and i think we are making progress on quality. we ought to make progress on coverage when we get ther

second page, and as you go halfway down, it shows that reagan is doing and he is telling these people casey is very important. and he tells people what is going to happen and then he suddenly says but i will make all the decisions. and when he said, i will make all the decisions, it went on for the entire eight years. he was writing his own lines. he made all the decisions. he listened to these people and went back and forth. lot of people argue with him, did not like him, all different kinds of things. he never wavered. he knew exactly what he was going to do and he stayed with it. he would listen to these experts and he had some of the best experts in the world. he would listen to them. some he would go with those on the left side, sometimes on the right side but he always ended up on his side. what we have discovered in this material as we go on is that a lot of things that happened, reagan was for. he put them all together. and, i think as this goes round and other people see them, rarely did anyone realize what he was doing. and, some of the most amazing things that he did, let's say i

senator casey? >> aye. >> senator haguen. >> senator murkley. senator enzi?>> aye by proxy. >> senator alexander? >> aye. >> senator burr? senator isakson? senator mccain? >> aye by proxy. >> senator coburn? >> no. >> senator roberts? >> aye by proxy. >> chairman kennedy? >> aye by proxy. i want to recommend that all future amendments be offered by senator sanders. very good, senator. lamar alexander, you're up. >> thanks, mr. chairman. i have an amendment to title three, section 311. the purpose of it is to make sure that the right choices program which is in that title doesn't require the states to spend any money on it, and this is a relatively small item, probably, but i would like to make a larger point in making my proposal, if i could say just a word about it. >> certainly. >> we have talked a lot here about cost and usually the cost is described in terms of cost to the federal government, and the cbo, congressional budget office, score has said that the kennedy bill even without three of its major points would add $1 trillion over ten years. senator g

and the question of the ad casey of capital reserve, looking at potential losses into the future, it really does stay, the stress test would be stronger and more meaningful if they reached across a longer period of time and dealt with this issue. the third problem of -- that we are concerned about, is the inability to replicate the tests. i'm afraid i'm going to expose once again my academic background, i do a lot of impeerk cal work, and one of the most important things you want to do in any model is establish that it is robust. and what we mean by "robust" is just, if something changed slightly, you altered the time period a little bit, the g.d.p. crags or growth shifted just slightly, you have relatively similar results. different results but within the same beark. -- ballpark. if you do, you have a lot of confidence that the test is measuring something real, that is that it is robust. the problem is, you can't rerun those tests unless you have a lot of details about them. so we have pressed very hard on the fed, who is really the consensus toedian of this stest test, for more inf

late can be asked about the case she decided as you know judge robinson and toledo were asked about casey and decided and their reasonning was examined anywhere there but i don't think it's appropriate for us to try that in fit she stated how she might ruin for a case of the future, but that might well be an improperer act by the congress. but -- and i would also suggest that there may be a question of whether or not she should sit on a case in the future. if it's one that she's personally already ruled on, her case could be perhaps one coming up. who knows? >> but she could with the heller case did say this was an individual right. and i think she should have to respond to the question, do you believe it's an individual right. because that should have not a heck of a lot to do with your case, although, in my eyes, it will have a lot to do with this. i think i can croach it with more -- >> after that question you or senator -- did you answer it? >> i did not. >> senator,

aircraft, and the air force base being in my state of oklahoma, they are doing a great job on the casey 135's. if we are successful in making a determination about what kind of tanker we would have, we would still be using it for another 30 years. let's start with you. it does that keep you up at night, concerned about the aging equipment? >> it is a concern and we need to keep our focus on that. i think -- and i have been on the outside as the services have deliberated on this -- as i look at my position currently as the deputy commander of pacific command, we have the resources we need. it is one of the things we need to continue to focus on and enable us. >> i agree, sir. >> general mcchrystal, i might go a little further. the combat system was one of the first transformations in 50 years we have had on the ground. i know what is very controversial and many of these decisions are political. i would say we are using some of the outdated stuff. the paladin was world war ii technology. the pen programs would go forward to improve the paladin. it has undergone two or three of these renov

. >> host: among the many photographs of the secretary rumsfeld with george casey and iraq and here with joint chiefs chair the former chair and here with troops also at a town hall meeting in iraq in 2005. how was he viewed by troops and the general staff? >> guest: he generally got very good browsing receptions when he went to see the troops. the episode we mentioned earlier about the armor in kuwait was the exception where the troops seem to ask particularly poignant questions of him, explanation may be a grip largely made up of reservists. and it was further into the war as well and a lot of resentment and frustrations were building but he generally was well received by the troops and so he enjoyed visiting with the troops all over and having these town hall meetings. his relations with the generals were more mixed. and one of the things writing the book that most impressed me was going back to some of the senior officers with whom rumsfeld brought along the best and hearing them describe the relationships reflect on their dealings with rumsfeld and even those like general abizaid an

medical errors, those things that happen inadvertently, not because of negligence or to use senator caseyand other legal terms, negligence or intent. so i very sincerely disagree with you. what you do have in here that's good, though, is to conduct research on approving methods of disseminating information. i think that is very good because we have to know how best we communicate this in a way that could be where people could be broadly informed. but again, evidence informed, not practice mandated. and then also on the last 21 through 25, we're back to -- prohibiting cms, may not use data obtained in accordance with this section to withhold coverage, particular service treatment or a prescription drug, and i believe we've covered that and that may not be construed. then again -- >> can you offer me a way where we can give providers protection, if, in fact, the art of medicine says at this particular instance i shouldn't do what the government recommends? >> well, let's turn to the national academies to do that because you know more about the practice of medicine. i know more about the adm

. >> -- >> senator casey. >> no. >> senator higgens. >> no, by proxy. >> senator murphy. >> no. >> senator whitehouse. >> no. >> senator enzi? >> aye. >> senator greg. >> aye by proxy. >> senator alexander. >> aye by proxy. >> senator burress. >> aye by proxy. >> senator mccain? >> aye by proxy. >> senator mikowski. >> aye by proxy. >> senator roberts. >> aye. >> chairman kennedy. >> no, by proxy. >> the ayes are 10, nays are 15. i thank our colleagues. are there further amendments to title two? >> i think senator coburn. >> tom? >> could i inquire. senator mikulski was very straightforward and honest about what was really intended in the cer stuff. and when she was asked by senator greg in our kind of roundtable about what their intention were to really tell a difference between, you know, i just have some questions so i can understand. i think we use -- i can't remember the examples. maybe it was claritin and allegra. i think he used one of the other. let's say cer comes out and says one is better than the other. what's going to be the require me ment? what's going to be the requirement

he was writing down what every single person said. , what casey said, judge clark, all those people. because of what reagan said. so what i have tried to do in this is two go in and find out what reagan did. the reason why i feel very strongly about this is that if you talk a lot about what people tell you i think there are about 300 books written on reagan and it all have a different view of reagan why he is doing something but the only real way to find out what it is doing is to get something he has written or said. that is fine you find out what happened. and what we are doing we end up with pulling 87 of this classified documents that showed what he was doing and what was happening. and i think we can say now, i think we have the first letter and will show you. that is the first classified document. that is the first sign of it that shows of the various people , the vice president and so forth. and as i was reading through this i open up the second page to and that as you go down about halfway down it shows that reagan is doing and he is saying is very important with cia, and he

casey. >> thank you, mr. chairman. just a brief comment on some of the points that congressman brady is making at some point we're all going to know. we're going to know whether this recovery bill worked or didn't work. you're on either side in terms of on supporting and i'm glad i voted for it and i believe we're seeing a positive impact from it. can you back up that on every point with numbers? probably not. we're seeing it on the ground. there are projects started. there are jobs being created but it's still kind of early to tell whether or not the recovery bill has had the impact we wanted it to have. we'll know soon enough. there'll be a history written of this time period and one side or the other is going to be mostly right or mostly wrong. so i think it's a little early but i know there's a debate about that. i wanted to go back to one point in the unemployment rate for minorities but in particular, minority women as opposed to the white female number. the unemployment rate for white females -- do you have that

certainly senator casey and senator hayden have talked about it just yesterday when discussing what theeffect of a really good will this program would be so i know there is consensus around this table that we should attempt to do that. senator conrad has really been a leader on the issue of dead and this government and the fact that the dead is the threat has become really a watchword for us. unfortunately beyond not doing well by the police he has the point down. was advised by cbo and myself in a letter that they wrote and i will quote it briefly in the record that the rising cost of health care will cause federal spending to grow putting the federal budget on an unsustainable path. to quote again the federal budget is on unsustainable path. >> we have 12 members present -- i think the amendment we discuss this senator mikulski and recommended as well as senator reid is senator enzi and the two amendments by senator greg and senator mikulski, they have been agreed to on both sides and i ask unanimous consent those amendments adopted -- without objection is so ordered. >> that is a goo

. >> no, senator casey? >> no. >> senator hagen?>> no by proxy. >> senator enzi. >> aye. >> senator gregg. >> aye. >> senator bird. >> aye by proxy. >> senator mccain. >> aye by proxy. >> senator coburn? >> aye by proxy. >> 13 nos and ten yays. >> 13-10 was the vote. the subject is open to further amendment. i think senator hatch has number 8. we adopted an amendment before you arrived. we adopted a hatch amendment while you weren't here? >> no, that's a blessing. we're on number eight. >> am i on -- >> you're up, sir. >> we included your chiropractor immunity -- >> that means a lot. that means a lot. i'll call amendment number 8 on comparative ektiveness research. the purpose of the amendment, to summarize -- >> which number is this? >> number eight. number eight. >> staff will please distribute the amendment if it hasn't been already. >> okay. >> go ahead, orrin. >> thank you, mr. chairman. the purpose is to prohibt the use of comparative effectiveness research by providing the standard of care in state and federal courts. now, wh

. >> senator casey. >> no. >> senator occasikagen. >> no, by proxy. >> senator murphy. >> no. >> senator whitehouse? >> no. >> senator enzi. >> aye. >> senator staalexander. >> aye by proxy. >> senator bird. >> aye by proxy. >> senator mccain? >> aye by proxy. >> senator mikulski? >> aye by proxy. >> senator kennedy? >> no, by proxy. >> i thank the clerk. further amendments, senator robert, you had an amendment you wanted to raise or senator enzi. >> i have one i would like to discuss based on what we discussed over the weekend. that would be enzi amendment number 2. >> clerk will distribute that amendment list. >> this is something i've been working on with ç9> there is reasonable ability for people to get paid quickly but there needs to be protection for the doctors to make sure they stay in the field. we have come up with an award of grants for states for the of the plot -- for the development of alternatives to the current litigation. this is an experimental area where they can do some different things. it would promote a reduction in health care errors by allowing patients safety da