simpson team and the casey anthony team? >> worked with the o.j. casey anthony team on the defense side in both cases, yes. >> tell us a little bit your role on each. >> well, as a trial consultant, what you're trying to do is you're trying to give your client the best listening, you're trying to help them in the jury selection process to choose not only the most neutral jurors but let's face it best jurors, jurorers that are most favorable and give your client the best listening. the prosecution's doing the same. they have their own consultants. what you're sometimes doing is focus groups or mock trials, prosecution does it, too, to test basically what they're going -- what the themes are, what jurors are concerned about and you're helping them develop a story to tell to that jury. >> the business that a lot of people don't know behind the picking and selection of the juries. ten seconds or less, are cameras in the courtroom a good thing or bad thing for justice? >> they're a good thing but they need to be monitored and we all need to get better u

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simpson to casey anthony. an inside act of acquittals. we may or may not see a tripple crown winner. we tell you about a stunt based on the front runner's nose. >> and n.a.s.a.'s journey to put people on mars got longer. big plans crashing down to earth. >>> few things have changed the landscape of the american legal system as drastically as o.j. simpson, drove his white ford bronco down the los angeles highway. it began an era of high court cases, how they talked about the media and the public. as a result american justice has become a complicated product of the interaction, and a trial by jury is far from the expression of democracy our founding fathers contended. richard gabriel is a renown attorney that worked on infamous cases including o.j. simpson, phil specter and casey anthony and is the author of a new book. great to have you with us, richard. fascinating book. let's start with o.j. simpson, a trial that thrust the courtroom on to tvs, across the nation. you talk about the reach that went into deciding who would be on the jury.

we could make people famous, jodi arias, nataliee holloway, casey anthony. >> it taught us that shows can be about larger issues. you don't have to have celebrities. o.j. himself, really it was about a racial drama, 200 years of racial history going on. we couldn't understand that normal people could represent larger things in the american psych. that's what made it smart. i also think we got much smarter about race. >> let me turn to a column you wrote about a two-hour documentary cnn is airing tonight on the life of george h.w. bush. that's take a look at an excerpt. >> i george herbert walker bush do solemnly swear. >> he took his responsibilities to help his fellow man seriously. he's a man of enormous love. >> you ripped cnn's decision to run this. why? >> i do. first of all, let me say, there's much to respect about the 41st president of the united states. >> he jumped out of an airplane at the age of 90. >> but this is not what a news channel should be showing. this is george washington, i cannot tell a lie. there's nothing balanced about a real human being. this is a pure cele

and casey anthony would be one prime example of that. >> all right, martin, stick around. i want to bring in our legal analyst, a former federal prosecutor and criminal defense mark geragos, also abuse. i need to hear about child abuse, prior child abuse. >> because this does happen. and this does happen? >> it does happen. i looked up some stats. i know mark is going the make fun of me because have i some notes. if you look at the survey on safekids.org, which i questioned, nearly one in four parents of a child under three has forgotten a c 25%. i've done that. i admitted that yesterday. >> i've done it. >> you've done it. wow. >> i'm telling you, i can't tell you the number of people who watched the show last night who called me afterwards and said i've done the exact same thing. >> it happens. >> in panic, you absolutely panic when it happens. you just, i know martin did that, the piece, the setup piece and talked about the five minutes. you can forget that quickly. you -- >> and we're going to have woman coming up right after this panel who actually had done this and h

>> this sounds eerily similar to what the prosecution threw out in casey anthony about alleged internethes, death by asphyxiation and chloroform. i don't know. i want to see when the internet searches were done, what was searched, who had access to the computers? if the mom did it after the child died, i understand that. if the father did it before it's strange. is that enough to convict him? no, it's not. >> what do they need the to convict him? >> i think they will need probably more than this. i want to know what conversations he had with the police since then. the police arrested him early on. there have been cases where children have been forgotten in cars and died. police have investigated and the parents haven't been charged. early on the police were suspicious of the dad. i don't think this is the only evidence. the police know when the searches were conducted. was a search done that day? the week that he allegedly forgot his child in the car? that will be key evidence. >> michelle, what do they need to go forward here? >> well, certainly they are going to make a timeline of whe

. >> we saw it in casey anthony too. >> in that case, she was acquitted. so we don't know. as has just been pointed out, we don't know when the search was conducted. we don't know who conducted it. if it was at his workplace, maybe somebody else used his computer. we tonight kndon't know. we can go to certain assumption, but we don't know. are these going to be the only charges? we don't know that either. it certainly is not a good fact for him. at least for the potential jury pool, that that fact about the animals and how long they cab li can live in a hot car, that's not a good fact as far as influence a potential jury pool. >> this whole notion of searching for ways to die before somebody near you mysteriously dies and you end up charged with a killing. sometimes it's just the specifics of how the victim died. i cover a case in florida where justin barber shot his wife and shot himself i think five times. and miraculously survived. on his hard drive was a search for how to shoot yourself and survive. that is so specific to that crime, isn't that a case where it's just be

we've done those internet searches and remember casey anthony -- >> that comes from a single course,o, you know, and there is a lot we don't know. >> and i've been saying that from the very beginning. it comes from a single source. we don't know enough about the circumstances while it's troubling to me it's not enough. i want to hear about motive. i mean, what parent bakes their kid to death in a car without a motive. is there mental health issues? is there an insurance policy on this kid? he in financial trouble? i need to know more. >> if somebody did intend to do that, though, this is another level of -- >> first of all, i wouldn't be what we call felony murder. you can see prosecutors are reaching to make their case because they are charging it as a felony murder, not a premeditated murder, not a negligent murder but because you were cruel to him and you accidently caused his death, that is the equivalent of murder. so we know they have flaws in the case but we have to see the whole case. why are prosecutors doing this? >> you represented lynn balfore who did this, she left the c

in this computing searching has been used and hasn't necessarily worked out in a conviction and casey anthony would be would be example of that. >> stick around, i want to bring in sunny hostin and mark geragos, attorney and child's advocate reeva martin is joining us. sunny, again, this is one source but it certainly is not a good development for the father. >> well, it's not, of course. it gives me pause but we don't know enough about this case to really jump to conclusions and i know mark is shocked that i'm saying this but, you know -- >> do you work in cable news? >> somebody hacked into sunny's body. >> i know, i'm thank hem hostin. i need to hear motive in a case like this. i need to hear about a divorce or custody battle. i need to hear about perhaps an insurance policy, substance abuse, child abuse, prior child abuse. >> because this does -- >> it doesn't make sense. >> i looked up stats. mark will make fun of me because i have notes. if you look at this survey on kids.org, everybody should look at this. one in four parents of a child out of three has forgot a child in a car. i've do

but casey anthony, the zimmerman case, have all been in florida, all the other big cases including everyin federal court has not been televised. so i think there really has been a backlash to cameras in the courtroom. >> even for the conrad murray trial, there were cameras in the courtroom for that. yale, you were o.j.'s attorney from 2000 to 2013. tell us, did he share any insight on that infamous bronco chase? >> yeah. i mean, we used to discuss it a lot, don. and, you know, the most surreal thing to him was that everybody characterized it as a chase and it was never a chase. i think the bronco never went over 35 miles an hour. >> slow speed chase. >> on the phone with law enforcement, they knew where he was going, it was -- really wasn't a chase. a chase is, you know, something where cops are trying to run you down and the police here made an intentional effort not to stop it. so he was, you know, a lot of things that we discussed about the trial and the chase was just one of them. >> but, yale, he wasn't driving to the police department to turn himself in. it wasn't a high speed chas

just ask casey anthony. there were searches for chloroform on the family computer. it was never really determined who it was making those keystrokes. justin barber killed his wife and shot her and shot himself. ultimately, he did not prevail in that case. you can certainly find a good defense for it too. >> certainly part of the investigation. that part is clear. let's talk about the wife now because it doesn't seem like she's talking, but as we've learn again and again and we all know from law 101 that in itself shouldn't be incriminating. >> it's never incriminating for all of you innocent people watching this program right now, if you ever find yourself anywhere near an issue with the law, get a lawyer. even if you are innocent. it's the most protective thing we have in this society. sometimes i'm inconsistent. inconsistencies can trap in a case and make you look very guilty even when you are not. so the fact that they may lawyer up, it will never go to a jury. a jury will never find out that you got a lawyer. they are not allowed to find out you got a lawyer. it

i think it harkens back to casey anthony and that evidence that everybody talked about searching thece on cnn.com, and i've received a lot of flack pore it, but i left my 14-month-old daughter in the car on a hot july day, you know, and i remember it like it was yesterday and i'm ashamed to even talk about it. i'm still embarrassed by it. i'm still horrified by it but she was in the car with me and i walked into a home depot store and completely forgot about, completely forgot about it. >> you were with your husband, never made it into the store. >> i made it into the store. >> but then you turned around. >> and then i turned around, the fact that he went into the car and left for me doesn't strike me as the smoking gun. >> does not strike you as the smoking gun. >> let's go to mel. >> mel, what do you make of the new facts and then give me your take on this as well because i know you feel strongly about it. if you are right to feel strongly, why did the police then reduce the charge to second degree which means negligence, not intentional actions so take us through the both parts. >

simpson trial along with a lot of high profile cases including phil spector casey anthony.dora's box was opened and the clash of news media, journalism and advertising dollars, public craving, criminal investigations and prosecutions, celebrity culture and constitutional protections was unleashed on our unwitting justice system. we are still trying to close the box. how do you mean? >> well, up till that point we had this black box myth which essentially is that the trial happens in the courtroom. and on that stretch of 405 freeway on that day in june, all of a sudden, 100 million people and then the entire nation and even to a certain extent the entire world became jurors in the case. and all of a sudden, it wasn't just witnesses from are the witness stand, it was the journalists somehow bringing forth evidence. it was tip hot lines. it was the "national enquirer" and all of this mixture of celebrity and enter takenment all got thrown into this mix. it became this sort of carnival, and it sort of made it very difficult and quite challenging to actually try the case in a ve

i think of casey anthony and george zimmerman and people use the term trial of the century. that really changed media? >> well, it was a media-created event. a trial that was supposed to last perhaps a month, month and a half, really extended into most of the year. in fact, it was the longest sequestered jury in the history of california. jury members actually sat for 265 days in sequester quarters. it was a remarkable event from a trial perspective. from a media event, of course, it captured the attention of all media. in fact, not to cover o.j. during that period of time seemed to be out of the cultural loop. it was certainly that trial of the century, perhaps replacing the lindbergh trial of 1935 which had the designation up until simpson. >> something like dog magazines were covering o.j. simpson back in the day. i want to ask you because i used to work at "in session" and people seemed to ask why can't there be cameras in every courtroom? are there cons to having trials covered and televised? >> yeah, i think it's an interesting fallacy that exists with cameras in the c

we have seen like casey anthony, and in scott peterson, it can be very damaging evidence.ve a mom saying the same thing, unless it's a huge conspiracy, i don't know what the prosecution does. i want to agree with mel on that. maybe the investigators know something we don't know. they really came out pretty strongly saying this is one of the most aoe skwraoepbegregious they have seen. >> we are being very careful. but it does go to the investigators. they did come out strongly and pointed there's more to this story than we are discussing. he is behind bars. thank you, guys. >> thanks. >> of course. >>> let's take a break. up next, hillary clinton is going to get $225,000 to speak at a unlv in october. the student government there said clinton should donate the money back to the school. why are we talking about so many graduation speeches and the to-do all around it. we will talk about it on "inside politics". >> i know people down here, kate, who could use the money. live in rio. we are going to show you the flip side of this city. a place you have not seen as part of the w

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