and that's our system. >> neither casey anthony nor caylee anthony can be excluded as the source of thatq12.1 hair. >> bergman: in the casey anthony case, 37 expert witnesses testified in over a dozen forensic disciplines. >> the group of insects that we found... >> bergman: the defense team challenged many of them, something jose baez says he would not have been able to do in most criminal cases. do you normally have the resources to challenge forensic evidence when it comes into court? >> 95% to 99%, no. >> you don't have the money to hire your own experts? >> hardly ever. >> so casey anthony was an anomaly? >> she was. >> because? >> well, she had photographs of her and her child, and a network paid us $200,000 so we could mount a proper defense. and that's exactly what we used the money for. >> abc news? >> yes. >> paid $200,000 for the photographs? >> correct. >> and that's what paid for her defense? >> partially, yes. >> at the moment now, inside of a courtroom in florida... >> the case against casey back in the courtroom. >> casey's bizarre behavior... >> bergman: the trial of cas

much like george zimmerman and casey anthony have done he's spending his days in hiding and his attorney says leaving the ferguson police department is not a question of if, but when. and there's still a federal investigation under way. so for the "legal view" i want to bring in mel robbins and hln legal analyst joey jackson. start with you, what do you think the future holds for someone like darren wilson? because this is someone who, while he's not -- he hasn't been indicted there's still two other investigations under way. he could still face a wrongful death lawsuit by the brown family. what are the options for him? >> the chapters have not been fully written and the reason for that is we saw the grand jury and their action of the grand jury, but there's the federal investigation and there's two federal investigations under way remember. one federal investigation involving him, did he violate the civil rights of michael brown by his actions and then the second layer of that, pam, really concerns the police department itself as far as its past practices, what they're doing, the histor

>> look, we have seen from prior juries, casey anthony jury and other high-profile cases, these jurorsave sworn to uphold an oath and have been there from all accounts been there a long time and looked at a lot of evidence. i think as human beings, it might weigh on them, but as jurors, they have an oath to uphold and a duty to do their job and looks like they have done it. >> what is difference between coming out at 6:00 and saying we have a decision, we're not going to tell what you it is until 8:00 their time, 9:00 here on the east coast? what does that buy them, if anything? >> i think it gives the grand jurors an opportunity to get out of the court building, to get safely home. and i think it gives the police and law enforcement, the national guard, a chance to set up and be ready for whatever the decision is. >> reaneysandler, thanks so much. we're going to be staying in touch with you throughout the evening. we thank you for being with us. and share your perspective and insights. >> thank you. >>> two virginia state senators say they want to reform what they call richmond's cult