casey gerald, they've got a troubled hero myth. we also have a troubled method here is the escaped inmate all the wrong decisions and screwed it up and threw his life away. it's more complicated than that and we are all happening upon other people and operating many of which are designed to leave skid like my dad at 20 years old and too poor decisions come into unsafe choices and environment and then blame this on them. i think there's a lot of blame to go around. >> host: casey gerald spoke, "there will be no miracles here" a memoir is available in october. this is booktv on c-span2. >> i like to read in spanish, so i'll be reading from spanish poetry and also a great south american writer, fictional writer, many interesting books. >> fantastic. do you ever recommend any books your colleagues? like of course. my favorite book as a child was the red badge encouraged. probably the first book i read in english. and then of course i read a bunch of other books that malcolm x, the biography of malcolm x was one book that turned my life

unlearn that because that is imprisoning all of us. >> now, college football might not know who casey geraldut they might know who roger gerald is, who was he? >> my dad in many circles is considered to be one of the greatest high school football players texas has ever seen, quarterback in the 70's, second black history, played for legendary woody hayes and i write in the book him being a real legend was a pain in my pass, every great man is inconvenience of the father because everybody tries to be their own when somebody calls you the son of somebody. but football plays a very important role. my dad became a legend when he was 20 his sophomore year and had broken his back in a game against perdue, they made the orange bole -- bowl and a year or so before that, woody hayes comes and says, we need you to play, his back wouldn't heal but my dad, this was his identity and woody had become somewhat like a father figure to him, so he tried to do it, he shows up and before the game a guy comes to him and says, you want me to give you something that will help you play like a champion today, my dad