with me is fox news contributor casey mcfarland. look, it is thought to be this is a terrorist act.he simulator of the captain of the plane. could this be a dry run the way we saw in 94 in? >> tsz a dry run. we say what do we know? what do they know? what have we learned if this is a dry run? you can buy tickets with crash. if the bad guys are doing this what have they learned? an awful lot. we have satellites every where. we are not looking at the southern hemisphere. is anybody else looking is the chinese looking with their satellite. that's a part of the world they shouldn't. >> are you saying the chinese should know where this plane is? aren't they the ones that misled all of us? >> what have they known and what have they shared? this is a dry run. they have learned now the united states is not looking at the southern hemisphere. they know somebody is looking is he southern hemisphere they have learned it sz hahas taken us a . there's an awful lot of spinning of the wheels. they got the a team involved. if you have done this for a dry run we have learned what vulnerabilities the

joining us now casey mcfarland and general jack keen. welcome both.general keen, i want to start with you. the amassing forces near the border, does it send a message? >> he lied about annexing georgia and lied about crimea and moved troops in on those borders before he actually occupied the countries. i think we have to take it at face value. he has almost two divisions. he is interested in eastern ukraine. despite the fact he is telling us he doesn't have intentions on doing that and lying time and time again, we have to look at the capabilities and measure the capabilities and take it seriously there is a threat there. >> you have the great insight not only into russia but also vladimir putin. what do you make of this? do you think the additional rounds of sanctions will slow him down, stop him in any way? >> no. here is what happened. this week putin gave a speech in moscow at the kremlin. it was an emotional speech, long speech. there were hundreds of russian leaders there and talked about how america had lied to them and humiliated them when the

with me is fox news contributor casey mcfarland. look, it is thought to be this is a terrorist act.ain of the plane. could this be a dry run the way we saw in 94 in? >> tsz a dry run. we say what do we know? what do they know? what have we learned if this is a dry run? you can buy tickets with crash. if the bad guys are doing this what have they learned? an awful lot. we have satellites every where. we are not looking at the southern hemisphere. is anybody else looking is the chinese looking with their satellite. that's a part of the world they shouldn't. >> are you saying the chinese should know where this plane is? aren't they the ones that misled all of us? >> what have they known and what have they shared? this is a dry run. they have learned now the united states is not looking at the southern hemisphere. they know somebody is looking is he southern hemisphere they have learned it sz hahas taken us a . there's an awful lot of spinning of the wheels. they got the a team involved. if you have done this for a dry run we have learned what vulnerabilities they are. >> that's how the