or not a great national anthem so we get to talk about it all mary professor of sociology ellis cashmore and social activist lee jasper discussing whether or not support current end of the day remain a political. birth times in the world where the acuteness of injustice the harshness of injustice and the unfairness of injustice seach through into sport should do so when those injustices can find no legitimate response from democratic nations people differ around the world in what means good or bad way if we get scared of carte blanche to everyone then we are in troubled waters if someone like israel folau comes along and starts expressing homophobic views which are clearly not consistent with that of the rest of the wallace mort's i don't want that i want them to remain calm grew and with the ideals the guiding ideas of governing organizations in sport which to me seem as if they've all got the heart in the right place that you know this idea that we're living in a meritocracy that the world is a meritocracy the sporting burra anybody's retiree meritocratic. that would be a good idea i d

something completely different ok thank you both there very interesting debate enjoyed thought ellis cashmore on re professor of sociology at austin university in the u.k. lead jasper social activist former policy advisor on equality to the mayor of london thank you. or great program take going in moments here in order to find out what's showing wherever you are today up to the shortest of breaks by for naught. hello and welcome to cross talk where all things are considered i'm peter lavelle forced regime change playbook and why it is not and will not work and there was also the no bombing saga benefits from this very strange episode. to discuss this i'm joined by my guest marcus papadopoulos in london he's editor of politics 1st magazine and in budapest we cross to jordan samuel he is author of bombs for peace nato's humanitarian war on yugoslavia are across up rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate when you let me start with george and george let's start with the big everest story because the pira story looks like it's kind of morphing into the v

or let's not bring in ellis cashmore onery professor of sociology at austin university in the u.k.and lead just burley's a social activist and former policy adviser inequality to the mayor of london welcome to you both we kick off with you where do you think this ends doesn't end at all because at times not just f one i've seen it suggested that it's beginning to look like a party political broadcast than that the majority of people many paying customers just want to watch sport. well i think that sport has got a long history other than it being involved in politics ever since jesse owens in 1936 at hitler's white supremacists the olympics there had mohammed ali and his objects into being drafted in 67 john carlos into black power salute in 68 the south african apartheid regime prisoners are brought to its knees as a consequence of an international sporting boycott and mostly recently what lies matter but there are times in the world where the acuteness of injustice the harshness of injustice and the unfairness of injustice see through into sport rightly should do so when those inj

year especially was no immediate end in sight which is the problem isn't it let's go live to ellis cashmore honoree professor of sociology at brings us university hello there thanks for being with us today. what's the main bone of contention in this feeling the answer restriction protests in spain germany britain the list goes on doesn't it. it does and i think there's a lot of scaremongering going to the moment haven't we had a pronouncement by britain's medical officers yesterday afternoon. it was spiralling upwards and that there was really nothing we could do more about it because that infection rate apart from more of the same social distancing not going out not going to work. in the protocols. and the problem is kevin how are they expecting people to respond to this all over it's not just europe it's all over the world people are being asked to make sacrifices as they have been since march i suppose when the law and certainly in the u.k. started if people saw beneficial results for the wards coming out of their sacrifice in terms of a drop in the infection rate or an improvement in th