. >> what was the casio watch? >> it's not a casio. >> i used to have a casio. >> this watch?e watch. >> that's what i'm saying. >> here we go. let's get going. >> all right. we spoke to jack welch yesterday and he was talking about boards not having enough guts to just say "no." >> let me tell you, the problem with activists right now are lousy boards. lousy boards. cowardly boards. some activist comes tripping on the door with 2% of the stock, pull them out the door. now, some activists have a real case. the company has been sleeping and they provide a value. >> joining us to get his take on the role of the board and growing number of the activist takeovers is steve ratner. nice to see you. >> nice to see you. >> what do you think about what jack had to say? not lumping activists into all is equal but -- >> at the end of the day, every board in america is led by the ceo who is also the chairman. we have a different system from europe and they split those jobs. it's the ceo's job to say, we have this activist out there. we should go right or left. the problem is activists hav

>> jimmy: sounds like a bunch of loose cats run over a casio keyboard. >> steve: yeah.immy: yeah, no, they weren't. they're in maroon hoodies. next up is a band called the glass family. >> steve: oh. >> jimmy: and the name of the album is called "crazy." [ laughter ] certainly a crazy cover. there they are peeking through a window at cartoon versions of themselves. >> steve: and they are kind of looking at themselves, but kinda not too. >> jimmy: some of them aren't even looking at themselves. yeah. let's take a listen to "interlude." ♪ >> what you doing after the dance roj? [ laughter ] ♪ >> i don't know i'm supposed to meet a friend for a glass of wine? ♪ >> a boyfriend? >> just a friend. ♪ >> how about having a glass of wine with me? ♪ >> jimmy: stop, stop, stop stop it. >> steve: that's crazy. >> jimmy: i feel creeped out. [ laughter ] >> steve: oh my gosh. >> jimmy: creeped me out a a little bit. >> steve: oh! >> jimmy: like my hair is standing up. >> steve: they are watching through the window. >> jimmy: why don't you want to go to the dance with me? [ laughter ]

there are brands like casio, nixon, swatch. watches that so for more than the apple watch and doesn't do a fraction of what the apple watch will do. alix: will they have two diapers a fight in a smart watch universe? ben: tech lawyer is partnering with google. it will look like a traditional mechanical watch but won't to do as much. if it were up to me i would tell the switch's -- tell the swiss watch industry to stay out of this. you can't beat apple at its own -- beat apple at their own game. focus on things that are tactful. alix: we have to import swiss watches into the u.s.. presumably not impacted by this threat. ben: it is on the rise. i don't think that the apple watch right away will take it he's out of the pie, but long-term absolutely. alix: it is going to get consumers away from other products or open them up to new ones? ben: i think no matter what, if apple sells 30 million watches this year it is going to absolutely impact the bottom line of every industry luxury wearable. with accessories, clothing, etc.. there'

this casio model forever changing the way we tell time. amazon. number two. remember this famous moment from the 199 presidential town hall? former president george h.w. bush, not interested in what they had to say, checking the time on his wrist. number three, james bond. he probably wishes he had one of these. sean connery used it to find atomic bombs in 1968. this went for over 100,000 pounds at an auction in 2013. and the first watch with a black and white tv screen barely over an inch. number five. i am on my way. those were the words detective dick tracy spoke to his two-way radio watch he used to stop crime. let's see how that works on mine. i am on the way, it is not working. gets us to the next hour on msnbc. smart watch magic. that wraps up the run-down on msnbc. i am richard lui in for jose diaz-balart. "newsnation" with tamron hall is next. stick around. american express for travel and entertainment worldwide. just show them this - the american express card. don't leave home without it! and someday, i may even use it on the moo