this is colin powell, casper weinberger, overwhelm it. this is our strength. it will require a shorter time to regain stability and less casualty. in afghanistan, al quaida got away in tora bora. >> charlie: what do your friends around the world tell you about the president. >> he's viewed as weak, whether a perception or reality. >> charlie: is it reality he's weak? >> it appears that way. we hear from the secretary of state and defense voong statements but not quite as strong from the president. >> charlie: or the vice president. >> or the vice president. the vice president usually comes on stronger. >> charlie: that's my point, this morning, the gates of hell. >> the gates of hell. so that is an element. he seems deliberative. he doesn't seem to exude confidence. you know, as i say in the book, one of the key things is the need to win the battle of the narrative. so whether it's you versus putin, you versus i.s.i.s., because we have different audiences, so the messages may not be the same, but, you know, the bully pulpit is critical in all this. we've seen