grumet or miss cassady or miss hammond. are you all familiar with the regulations relating to production of electricity in mexico by coal? >> no is a fine answer? if you don't know, you don't know. nobody knows. the reason i ask that question, part of our proposal and one i'm interested in has electric transmission facility not just pipelines. one of my concerns is that we are putting coal miners out of work in appalachia and we are putting coal miners out of work in app latch ya. if we allow electric transmission lines to cross over from mexico using not as good a coal with not as good a process and not as clean of plants, what gain have we maiden virnment tally? mr. grumet do you have any thoughts on that >>> i think you make a very important point. electrons and molecules don't have a lot of concern about arbitrary political boundaries. that's why we have to have a shared solution that brings the technology of the united states on the issues in mexico. i will not try to get into a lengthy conversation about regional clim

cassady in more detail. but it is our understanding this does not change the nepa process. >> i have to admit in my few seconds i have a problem with the state department. we have a company in text terks a canada pipeline that was dormant. they wanted to change the name because they bought it and their goal was to not only bring crude oil from canada but it was also to attach into the united states from balkan and the state department aside they needed to review what was on u.s. property. now, i want a federal agency looking at it but the state department shouldn't be deciding whether the pipeline out of balkan is good or not because granted we're getting crude oil in trains into houston, texas because our refiners do that. it is so much safer and easier to put a pipeline in there than it is to bring those 100-mile trains to bring crude oil from canada. >> gentleman's time has expired. recognize the chairman from virginia mr. griffith for three minutes. >> thank you very much. i appreciate it. all right. i'l

alison cassady's director of domestic energy policy for the center for american progress.we have ms. emily hammond is professor of law at george washington university law school. and i'm going to call on my colleague mr. pitts of pennsylvania, to introduce one of our witnesses as well. >> i wonder i'm very pleased to introduce mr. scott martin, a county commissioner from lancaster county, pennsylvania, former chairman of the commission and also acted statewide association of county commissioners outstanding commissioner who i'm very pleased to travel down from pennsylvania to be with us today. thank you, mr. chairman. >> thank you. mr. martin, they can bring with us. once again i want to thank all of you. we would look forward to your testimony and i'm sorry that there was such a delay in your testify. we had to reschedule a bit of mr. dolzer, i think you can the longest distance from bonn, germany, and i think you're in the german parliament at the time and you're a professor also add the university of bonn. so we generally appreciate your making this effort adequate to r

cassady. she served many years as an expert staff are under our former chairman henry waxman and she was on the side of the table and now she is on that side of the table. so good to see you again in your continuing outstanding work. thank you so very much. i want to ask you a question and also ms. hammond in response to the comments of the chairman. in your opinion and mostly your response, our energy and environmental issues inherently related to and why is that so very very important that any time comprehensive energy policy also integrate environmental concerns and not policy into either of you have any -- [inaudible] [inaudible] >> you have got a great voice. >> yes, it is true that inevitably impact of environmental concerns. patio mac the question is what to do about it. the energy provisions that do not consider environmental procedures. we will see further market dysfunction. we will see the law of diversity and the environment. my recommendation that the minimum -- [inaudible] are en

allison cassady from the center for american progress.e have miss hammond who is professor of law at george washington university law school. and i'm going to call on my colleague mr. pitts of pennsylvania to introduce one of our witnesses as well. >> thank you mr. chairman. i'm pleased to introduce bit. mr. dolzer you came the distance. from bonn, germany and you were in the german parliament at the time and÷áphñ you're a professor at the university in bonn. i'm going to recognize you to start off with for five minutes. then after everyone has concluded, we'll have some questions for some of y/ so mr. dolzer you're )c recognized for five minutes. >> thank you, chairman spokane, washington, at gonzaga university. then i stayed for a longer period at the harvard law school. i later taught at five u.s. universities, the last time in dallas in texas. in houston, i'm a member of the advisory board of the association of independent petroleum negotiators. a month ago, i published a larger study of international cooperation in global energy affa

allison cassady from the center for american progress.e have miss emily hammond who is professor of law at george washington university law school. and i'm going to call on my colleague, mr. pitts, of pennsylvania to introduce one of our witnesses as well. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i'm pleased to introduce mr. scott martin, a county commissioner from lancaster county pennsylvania, formerly chair of that commission and active of the statewide association of county commissioners, outstanding commissioner who i'm very pleased could travel down from pennsylvania to be with us today. thank you, mr. chairman. >> once again i want to thank all of you. we really look forward to your testimony, and i'm sorry that there was such a delay in your testifying. we had to reschedule a little bit. mr. dolzer, i think you came the longest distance, from bonn, germany, and you were in the german parliament at the time and you're a professor at the university in bonn. so we genuinely appreciate you making this effort. i'm going to recognize you to start of