he runs one of europe's two biggest military companies cassidian - the defence wing of eads. >>but he says with the latest drone technology the line is now blurred between military and civil applications. the talarion drone for example could monitor crowd trouble at a football ground or go behind enemy lines in afghanistan. >>zoller: the business has just started. we are now going for a next generation mission aircraft capacity alsoin an unmanned sector and we will therefore see more and more of such vehicles besides the usage incivil applications. you can't differentiate really between defence and a civil side. it depends on the mission the user wants to conduct. >>reporter: in fact these drones sophistication have made one thing abundantly clear - pilots are in theory at least completely obsolete whether it's a fighter jet or the plane you take on holiday. >>zoller: technology wise... its rather easy going. there is no problem to run an aircraft remotely. the second issue is acceptance of passengers. the people from airbus are ry much aware. so it's not a technical problem.