graham cassidy heller does not meet that test. i hope my colleagues will reject it and i hope all across the country, from one quarter of america to every other, people will step up and say the political change doesn't start

let us resist as cassidy -- this cassidy-graham approach which has no support when it comes to the medical community and instead work on the bipartisan approach, alexander and murray, together with the finance committee which i know senator wyden is going to address next, so that we can have a bipartisan solution. the american people sent us here to solve problems, not create them. cassidy-graham creates problems. let's find solutions that solve problems. mr. president, i yield the floor. the presiding officer: the senator from oregon. mr. wyden: mr. president, before he leaves the floor, i just want to draw attention to the central point that the senator from illinois has been making tonight. he has been focused on what the duties of the american people are all about, which is to make their lives better, and particularly to improve the quality of their health care, which is a lifeline for millions of families. now, instead of looking at bipartisan approach to make the lives of our people better. chairman hatch and i introduced the children's health bill today. nine million youngsters of t

the graham/cassidy bill followed the president to the united nations today. >> is graham/cassidy going to pass? >> i think it's going to pass. it has tremendous support of republicans. 47 or 48 already. senators. and a lot of others looking at it positively. i think there's tremendous support for it. i think it's actually much better than the previous shot which was very sadly let down. >> republican senator chuck grassley, a member of the senate finance committee with one hearing on the bill next week, did not try to justify the bill today on its substance. he said, you know, i could maybe give you ten reasons why this bill shouldn't be considered but republicans campaigned on this so often that you have a responsibility to carry out what you said in the campaign. that's pretty much as much of a reason as the substance of the bill. senator grassley was asked if there are enough votes to pass the bill in the senate and he said, no. i think we're one or two votes short and i don't see those other one or two votes coming. i hope i'm wrong. majority leader mitch mcconnell's spokesperson r

to support / cassidy gramm approach? every single medical advocacy group hospitals, doctors, those that oppose the approach as well as medical advocacy groups knowing that their approach allows discrimination against individuals based on the history of pre-existing conditions. going back to the days before we pass the affordable care act. this does not add up. if you take the three-year $400 billion out of the health care system and say good luck there will quickly tell you it will not work. it does not compute they certainly did not replace that and the opposite is true. days there is a bad negative to do many things in with this repeal effort that will day effort is a limited window. it is a mistake as far as i am concerned with theseed concepts that have been opposed by state and across the nation and let us roll up our sleeves and reauthorize the children health care program to make sure those kids and pregnantor moms will have basic coverage they have enjoyed for almost 20 years. f that is a good investment and fina

jimmy kimmel said on his show last night that senator cassidy lied to his face, which cassidy did lie to his face. which is insulting integrating and disgraceful as a senator to lie to the american people about what a bill does when it does not do what they say it does. jimmy kimmel was 100% correct. host: thank you. guest: i haven't gotten to see that segment yet. i will have to watch that. that is a lot of some of the criticism you will hear from democrats. issue was that ensures can't deny coverage with pre-existing conditions, but they can seek exemption status from something that helped community rating which prevents insurers from charging certain individuals more than healthier individuals. that is a factor of the bill. the republicans would say they have a requirement in their to make sure everyone, including people with pre-existing conditions can get access to affordable coverage. that is a criticism your hearing a lot from democrats. democrats appear, as they have been, steadfastly opposed to this proposal. they have been working to work on a bipartisan fix that now appears

i also continue to pursue an alternative to graham cassidy. i think my alternative works better and it cost zero federal dollars. my alternative is to let individuals come together in a group, by entrance across state lines, and by group health association entrance. i have talked to the president multiple times and the secretary of labor. he assured me they can do this by executive action. by reinterpreting existing statutes. we don't need congress. it we do those things we do a lot. i do not think we should give up. accounts, governors waivers, put caps on titles we can agree to and let people buy insurance across state lines to help associations. those four things went significantly alter the equation of what we have now and it would be a big help. i've yet to find a democrat, not wind up dead in the senate has come up to me and said "we are absolutely against health associations." most are actually open-minded. with that it will take some questions. >> any bills that still have some book grants in it? >> i think i have offered the compromis

what did theon is, president say about supporting graham cassidy. what was his response was more >> you know, we had a friendly conversation. we only separately covers asians. i've never had a cross word with a president. we always have friendly conversations. i have never had a crossword with the president. i spoke with secretary price as well. >> what did you make of the updated formula that came out of senators who may or may not but for this bill? >> unseemly. if you are going to say the whole country is short of money, which we are and that we have to reform medicaid, which we do, everybody should get the same ring. why would anybody think that equal reduction under the law was that one state got cap's and the other did not. get the opposite, i visit republicans every time i am home and the response i'm getting from them as they want someone to stand strong on the deficit is how much debt our country in crime. the deficit is driven by an entitlement. if we vote for graham cassidy, republicans will have their in premature on a trillion dollars o

that is what senators graham and cassidy believe. they rolled out a healthcare proposal of their own last week. it would repeal the pillars of obamacare and replace that failed approach with anyone, allowing states and governors to actually implement better healthcare ideas by taking more decision-making powergt out of washington. governors and state legislatures of both parties would have both the opportunity and the responsibility to help make quality and affordable healthcare available to their citizens in a way that works for their own state. it is an intriguing idea, and one that has a great deal of support. >> tell us about senator mcconnell's efforts on this. what is he doing. >> so this was interesting to me because it was the firstti time the senate had returned from the august recess that senator mcconnell had spoken about this. he had previously told senators graham and cassidy,ri you get 50 votes, bring it to me and we will do this thing. in the past couple days, senator mcconnell has really gone all in seeing that this i

graham-cassidy would spend a little less than that, not much less. now, let me take a look at what a real cut would be. there are no cuts. you will notice spending never declines year over year. it continues to grow year after year not that far from the projection. mr. president, this is what a real cut looks like. now, many of my colleagues have talked about and campaigned on something they call the penny plan, a way to really rein in out-of-control spending by doing something that seems -- doable, it is a one% cut per year. if we did that to obamacare and medicaid, you would see what it looks like. it is a pretty minor cut, the type of cut that many suggested under the penny plan, but that's what a real cut looks like. what graham-cassidy-heller-johnson does is not a cut, it's a slight reduction in the rate of growth and spending. now, again, oftentimes colleagues other side of the aisle are talking about drastic cuts. let me detail what i consider a possible drastic cut. let's say rather than 1% a year, we reduce spending by 5% a year or 10% a yea

what are they saying about graham-cassidy, or cassidy-graham? jennifer: they are opposed, period. , the moste manchin conservative democrat, said the present -- said the vice president tried to get his support for this, and it was a pretty short conversation. democrats say they are ready to fight tooth and nail to stop this. of course, if mitch mcconnell has the 50 votes, there is very little democrats can do to stop the bill. host: democrats rallied this week outside the capitol. we will take a look at that and get back to our discussion. >> people in power! -- people of power have stopped trump terror so far, and people of power will stop him again next week! [cheers] notolitical change does start in washington, d.c., and been trickled -- and thin trickle downd then to the grassroots. political changes bottom-up -- political change is bottom-up! this is not a complicated fight. we are fighting for seniors who are walking on an economic tightrope because this cassidy bill dropped their protection. we are fighting for kids, fighting for the disa

don't do graham cassidy. our budget and policy priorities will result in about $700 billion in cuts to health care by 2027. it would cause millions to lose coverage. millions. medicaid, it cut would bring us back to the days where insurance companies could discriminate against people with pre-existing conditions. it would get rid of the consumer protection that gives americans access to maternity care, substance abuse prescription drugs. we would throw the individual markets into chaos, resulting in 15 million people losing coverage. if they let the cbo do its work, if it were not pressured to put out something that was just a few lines -- this would all be told by cbo. how do we know? similar bills in the past have been explored by cbo with similar provisions. they are afraid. that the public will hate this bill. they are trying to russia through in the dark of night. protects bill that average americans. not flashes the health care they need whether the governor or washington wants to that. we want to work

first, graham-cassidy would gut medicaid. quote, all told, federal spending on medicaid would be reduced by about a trillion dollars, and the program would cover millions fewer enrollees. they don't know how many millions. my guess, about the same as the previous bills or even worse. that means a drastic cut to health care funding that goes to help older americans in nursing homes, those in opioid abuse treatment programs, low-income americans who rely on medicaid as their source of coverage. all of those would be slashed. you're a middle-class family, long island, anchorage, you have someone in a nursing home, a parent, you will be faced with an awful choice with too too may likely hoods. pay thousands of dollars a month out of your own pocket or ask your mom and dad to come live with you when you don't have a spare room in your house and you're trying to raise your kids. not very pretty. the c.b.o. says that graham-cassidy would cause millions to lose health care coverage, that the most abrupt loss of coverage occurring as

the president and i believe the graham-cassidy bill is the right idea.he president is absolutely determined to keep his promise to repeal and replace obamacare. we are urging every american to reach out to members of the senate and the house and urge them as the senate takes up this bill next week to vote to support graham-cassidy and repeal and replace obamacare. steve: we had senator rand paul on yesterday and he said he is leaning toward being a no because it doesn't really replace and repeal. it's kind of a work-around. a lot of people are looking in thinking well, they've got a plan. it better be better than what we've got right now. can you tell us that it's better than obamacare? >> almost anything would be better than obamacare. obamacare is imploding. it's collapsing all across the country. it's remarkable to see the pattern. we have seen people losing their insurance, losing their doctors. we have seen the average american see the cost of their insurance go up by more than $3,000. have you got thousands of counties across the country where ther

care plan put forth by senators lindsey graham and bill cassidy. the senate finance committee is meeting monday to look at that proposal. the senate stands in recess until monday, for the rest of the week, senators are back home for state work period. live coverage of the senate when it returns here on c-span2. republican and democratic leaders spoke earlier today with reporters about the latest effort to repeal parts of the affordable care act. here is a look at that starting with senate republicans. >> well, good afternoon, everyone. i expect you already know that we spent lunch talking about gram-cassidy. lots of interest in the bill that senator cassidy and senator graham have been working on. i asked them to join today and lead off. so have at it, guys. >> number one, i never felt

this guy, bill cassidy, just lied right to my face. there's a new jimmy kimmel test for you, and it's called the lie detector test and you are welcome to stop by the studio and take it anytime. there you go. >> the senator is going to be on "new day." what is his response? does he believe he failed the kimmel test? there's the senator, one of the two sponsors of this bill and will be on "new day" right after the break. sfx: t-mobile mnemonic 8 that's right, netflix on us. get four unlimited lines for just forty bucks each. taxes and fees included. and now, netflix included. so go ahead, binge on us. another reason why t-mobile is america's best unlimited network. sfx: t-mobile mnemonic for tech advice. dell small business advisor with one phone call, i get products that suit my needs and i get back to business. ♪ copdso to breathe better,athe. i go with anoro. ♪go your own way copd tries to say, "go this way." i say, "i'll go my own way" with anoro. ♪go your own way once-daily anoro contains two medicines called bronchodilators, that w

people will pay more if graham-cassidy passes. in the short term over the next ten years and when all the money expires after ten years, they'll pay a lot more. so i oppose that. second, i also oppose the way this bill treats preexisting conditions. by allowing states to waive essential health benefits, it might be technically true to say that you could get a policy, even if you had a preexisting condition. but the insurance company could say to you, i will write you a policy, but you're a diabetic. the policy will not cover insulin or i will write you a policy but you're a woman of child bearing age. the policy won't cover maternity care. if the policy doesn't cover your preexisting condition, then preexisting conditions are not protected. and to my read of the 141-page bill, which has been revised a little bit. i hear since i got the most recent version friday to read it over the weekend, that's exactly what states can do. since 43 of 50 states did not protect people with preexisting conditions before the affordable care act, ha

how will collins vote on graham/cassidy? senator, good to see you as always, your vote is pivotal on the graham/cassidy bill? yes or no? >> it's very difficult for me to envision a scenario where i would end up voting for this bill. i have a number of serious reservations about it. i'm concerned about the impact on the medicaid program, which has been on the books for more than 50 years and provides health care to our most vulnerable citizens including disabled children and low income seniors, i'm concerned about the impact on cults and coverage. we already have a problem under the affordable care act with the cost of premiums and deductibles, and finally, i'm very concerned about the erosion of protections for people with preexisting conditions like asthma, arthritis, cancer, diabetes and what it would mean to them. >> it you've been on the phone with other concerned senators is like lisa murkowski and also with the white house, how have those conversations been going? >> i have had a number of conversations over the weeken

and senator bill cassidy, one of the co-sponsors of the graham/cassidy bill now moving in the senate,ent on jimmy kimmel's show talked about this and promised to adhere to the jimmy kimmel test. here is what jimmy kimmel has said tonight in the taping of his show that will air later tonight. >> this is a bad bill. don't take my word for it. here are just some of the organizations that oppose this graham/cassidy bill. the american cancer society. the american diabetes association. american heart association. american lung association. the arthritis foundation. >> i cystic fibrosis. multiple sclerosis society. children's hospital. any group you've given money to thinks this is a bad idea. do you trust them, or do you trust him? if this bill isn't good enough for you, call your congress person. that's the number. it will go to your congress person, whoever he or she is. you have to do this. you can't just click like on this video. tell them this bill doesn't pass your test. senator cassidy, you were on my show, you seemed like a decent guy. here's the thing. nobody outside of your buddie

don't do graham cassidy. just on the substance according to the center for budget and policy priorities that will result in about $700 billion in cuts to health care by 2027. it would cause millions to lose coverage, millions. it would radically restructure and deeply cut medicaid. he would bring us back to the days when insurance companies could discriminate against people with pre-existing conditions. it would get rid of the consumer protections to give americans access to maternity care, substance abuse prescription drugs and it would grow the individual market into chaos resulting and 15 million people losing coverage. if they let the cbo do its work, if cbo weren't pressured to put out something that's just a few lines this would all be told by cbo. how do we know? because similar bills in the past have been scored by cbo with similar provision. they are afraid. they are afraid that the public will hate this bill so they are trying to rush it through in the dark of night. we want above all a bill that pr

senator cassidy has indicated that it is a block grant.fter ten years we can just continue like we do other block grants. here is the reality. in ten years, in order to continue that block grants would cost $190 billion for that next year at level funding. the entire health and human services budget for our country is 164 billion. if we stop doing everything else in education, health and human services you couldn't pay for extending that block grants. it is not believable. it is just not credible. i want to show one other thing. these are the staggering numbers for me in michigan because the cuts to michigan when this is fully implemented according to. [inaudible] is $140 billion. our governor just signed next year's budget, 56 billion. there is no way, there is no way that we will not see people's healthcare, nursing home care, children's healthcare cut as a result of this bill. let me get into specifics. let me talk about something near and dear to my heart and that is under essential benefits we have said that maternity care would be co

do not do graham-cassidy. our budget and policy priorities will result in about $700 billion in cuts to health care by 2027. it would cause millions to lose coverage. it would deeply cut medicaid. would bring us back to the days when companies could discriminate against people with pre-existing conditions. they could get rid of consumer protections that give americans access to maternity care and substance abuse drugs. intos her the markets chaos, resulting in 15 million people losing coverage. do its work,he cbo if it were not pressured to put out something that is just a few lines, this would all be told by cbo. how do we know? bills in the past have been scored by similar provisions. they are afraid the public will hate this bill so they are trying to rush it through in the dark of night. we want, above all, a bill that protects average americans, not slashes the health care they need, whether the governor or washington tries to do that. it is wrong. we want to work in a bipartisan process to make things be

i expect you already know that we spent lunch talking about gram-cassidy. lots of interest in the bill that senator cassidy and senator graham have been working on. i asked them to join today and lead off. so have at it, guys. >> number one, i never felt better about where we're at. it is pretty well clear to me where the country is going under obamacare and bernie care. it is going into further bankruptcy. it is more decisions further away from where you live and in 199 of we block granted money for welfare reform and it worked like a charm. we put governors in charge of the program. we held them accountable. so here is the choice for america. socialism or federalism. when it comes to your health care. four states get 40% of the money under obamacare. new york, california, massachusetts, and maryland. they represent 20% of the population. our goal is by 2026 to make sure that every patient in every state gets the same contribution roughly from the federal government and allow people in your states to make decisions that would have been made in washington.

cassidy has a heart unlike anybody i have met for reform. and the understanding about people when it comes to health care. more than i can ever hope to match. for decades, he worked in a hospital, nonprofit, serving underprivileged people. he has convinced me that when the patient is the focus of the exercise, the outcomes are better. he embraces the idea to give the money we can do better if you let us. ron johnson has been a guy mr. smith goes to washington. rick santorum sort of started this process. i have been up here 20 years. i never enjoyed anything more. i believe this is the most important thing i can ever do for the country, working with my colleagues. not to just repeal obamacare, but to replace it with a system closer to where you live, controlled by people you can vote for. and we are going to get there. to my republican colleagues, we are going to fulfill our promise to repeal and replace, to the american people. we are going to improve health care for you. at the end of the day, that is the only promise that matters. >> to be

we have been discussing the graham-cassidy for some weeks now. i have asked senator graham, come forwarddy, to now and give you their sense of where we are on that issue. and with that, i will serve -- turn it to senator graham. >> thank you senator mcconnell. on the path to-- pass it. it is not if, it is a matter of when. i've talked to my colleagues, everybody is enthusiastic about the idea of taking money and power out of washington, returning it to their states to give their constituents more say about their health care. ande is universal agreement our conference that obamacare is failing, cannot be repaired, is structurally flawed, our democratic friends are talking about bipartisanship. other and seeach we can find a bipartisan pathway forward that changes obamacare, does not profit up. in terms of alaska, i have learned a lot about alaska health care. i will talk to you privately over a drink. our friends in alaska, there are 750,000 people in the state of alaska, twice the size of texas. we have learned about their needs. i found out thin

cassidy: stop >> thank you. literally200 on foot thousands of letters and emails my office has gotten over the recently in opposition to this plan. i would like to enter these into the record mr. chairman. >> ok. without objection. >> thank you. i appreciate what senator bennett said a moment ago about the discussion from the other failure of a obamacare. has been centered on some percent of the market and not even 7%. more like 1% to were not getting subsidies. so the importance of -- i think it really did answer you know, oft dishonest kind opposition to the affordable care act and what is been happening but something else was at a moment ago. one of my colleagues said there was a coverage gap of 30,000 people in his stages simply are thegetting insurance and affordable care act is not taking care. the fact is his state did not expand medicaid. that is the reason he has the coverage gap, the coverage trap, whatever terms he tends to use. governor john kasich did in fact expand medicaid. 700,000 people in my st

he said it would remove guarantee of coverage and there is cassidy's answer.tes must insure that individuals with preexisting conditions have access to adequate and affordable insurance. >> you can see on the website the legislative text of the bill so we'll go find exactly that spot and fact check that. >>> americans and worker based health care avoided major hikes family coverage, again, employer based, if health care is through your employ year it only rose 3% in 2017 with individual coverage up to about 4%. the average silver plan spiked 24% this year. employer policies employ over 1.4 million people. the market is fairly stable but health care costs overall are rising so employer based plans are not immune to some hikes. for example family plans cost more than 30% more today than five years ago. they are raising deductibles. the average deductible is more than double ten years ago. the amount employees are responsible for may not go any higher. >>> and president trump's bluster on north korea has been met with bluster from pyongyang, so why is it so quiet

what are they saying about graham-cassidy, or cassidy-graham? jennifer: they are opposed, period. , the moste manchin conservative democrat, said the present -- said the vice president tried to get his support for this, and it was a pretty short conversation. democrats say they are ready to fight tooth and nail to stop this. of course, if mitch mcconnell has the 50 votes, there is very little democrats can do to stop the bill. host: democrats rallied this week outside the capitol. we will take a look at that and get back to our discussion. >> people in power! -- people of power have stopped trump terror so far, and people of power will stop him again next week! [cheers] notolitical change does start in washington, d.c., and been trickled -- and thin trickle downd then to the grassroots. political changes bottom-up -- political change is bottom-up! this is not a complicated fight. we are fighting for seniors who are walking on an economic tightrope because this cassidy bill dropped their protection. we are fighting for kids, fighting for the disa

not only did bill cassidy fail the jimmy kimmel test, he failed the bill cassidy test.iled his own test. you don't see that happen very much. and this guy, bill cassidy, just lied right to my face. call your congress person. 202-224-3121. you can't just click "like" on this video. tell them this bill doesn't pass your test. >> the co-sponsor of the bill lindsey graham was asked for his response. >> i wish he would have asked senator cassidy if it's true. he bought it hook, line and sinker and i don't like the idea of calling this good man a liar without ever talking to him first. that really says more about mr. kimmel than dr. cassidy. >> but states would be able to cover people with pre-existing conditions -- >> that's garbage. that's absolute garbage. >> the legislation specifically says that the state applying for a waiver would have to ensure that those with pre-existing conditions would have access to adequate and affordable coverage. >> senator tim kaine was the democratic vice presidential candidate in 2016. so you saw your colleagues call this idea that there's

but at the end of the day, jimmy kimmel understands more about the graham/cassidy bill than cassidy. cassidy has not been able to explain why the bill he claims it protects pre-existing conditions, it doesn't. jimmy kimmel is right on the policy, too. >> josh, in jimmy kimmel's corner of show business, a big corner of show business, always well understood of a danger in this kind of position that he's taken because jimmy kimmel has plenty of trump voters thinking he's great, funny, watching him for years and years and years and jimmy kimmel knows and his network knows that he risks those viewers in taking this stand. but he's going to do it and we're now into day three of something we -- the likes of which we have never seen in that kind of show. >> lawrence, there's no doubt that jimmy kimmel is risking alienating his audience and it is a cutthroat business and a margin there he is risking and to his credit he's speaking with authenticity here because he's not weighing any sort of political calculation. he's not weighing what it may do for the future of his career. not weighing what

i'm just not with him on graham/cassidy because graham/cassidy keeps most of the obamacare spending andsort of reshuffles it. so instead of obamacare funding going to california, it gets reshuffled to republican states. and so i see it really more as sort of petty partisanship. hey, let's reshuffle the deck and give the money to the republican states but let's keep the obamacare spending. my concern is the debt. we have a $700 billion debt. how are we going to pay for all this. >> but as you know, there's a deadline, september 30th. after september 30th, under the complex rules of the u.s. senate, you can't just get anything passed with 50 votes. you need 60 votes. in other words, you'll need dras as the 52-48 republican majority in the u.s. senate and on some of the other specific legislation that you want like being able to buy health insurance across state lines, you definitely need 60 votes for that. do you have -- is it realistic at all to think yao be able to achieve what you're calling for? >> the interesting thing is we've been working with the trump administration on this for s

where do you stand on graham-cassidy?d by a quest for perfection rather than doing that which is better than they have. this is a great example of that if the problem is lack of money for specific states, that could be fixed. but obamacare can't be fixed. what we have is an airplane that is spiraling toward the ground about to explode and we have people that are complaining about the snacks that are being served. this is why we need to get a handle on the yoke and pull this thing back and keep it in the air and best thing to do it is pass this bill. it empowers states. it gives them flexibility. during the time when i was governor we had 49 out of 50 governors sign on to a proposal to congress that said give us less money. think about that. give us less money, give us more flexibility. we can make medicaid work. i'm telling you, the problem is not that states can't do something. the problem is, the federal government won't let them. graham-cassidy gives them the permission, gives them the opportunity to fix a lot of the r

he had senator cassidy on his show. senator cassidy promised that pre-existing conditions would be protected in the bill that he was putting forward with senator graham. more information came out about that bill a few months later as this health care debate was resurrected once again. jimmy kimmel came out and said pre-existing conditions are not being protected as senator cassidy had told me they were. essentially he said he lied to my face. senator cassidy shot back, saying jimmy kimmel didn't understand the legislation. then jimmy kimmel said this last night. take a listen. we don't have this. we do have the tweet. jimmy kimmel said thank you, senator john mccain, for being a hero again and again and now again. last night in the sound bite we weren't able to air, he showed all of the various health organizations and insurance companies and outside analysis that said this bill was not going to be better than obamacare. jake sherman of politico joins us now. jake, what are you hearing from capitol hill? >> i will play

i was asking about graham/cassidy. but i whole other 45 minutes of a show to did so i am going to have to leave it here, senator barasso thank you so much for joining news congratulations on your book of it's doing very well. >> thank you very much, i hope you get a chance the read it. i appreciate that, sir. and come back any time. i would love the keep talking about this. >> thank you. >> on the issue of repealing obamacare, senator lindsey graham is using bernie sanders's push for single payer as a rallying cry for republicans to get on board with his plan. >> behind me is the only thing between you and single payer health care. bernie. this ends your dream of a single payer health care system for america. so we need people on board now to stop what i think is inevitable if we fail. we know how this movie ends if we don't change. we are going to have a single payer health care system in this country that's going to bust the budget, and we are going to start ration ing care like you have never seen. >> joining me sen

senators coming out against the graham-cassidy health care bill. susan collins, rand paul, and ted cruz also say they are against the legislation. aides to cruise says he might back it if the changes are made. lisa murkowski, you've heard of her, she still says that she's on the fence. with a razor-thin republican majority, opposition of three senators would do this build. laura ingraham anchor of our new primetime show, the ingram angle weighed in on this development on "fox & friends" earlier today. >> they botched it from the beginning. now they're up against this supposed entire deadline and there try to cram something through that isn't a real repeal. rand paul is right on that. is it better than nothing? maybe, but they're here because mitch mcconnell couldn't get the job done on full repeal. >> heather: chief white house correspondent john roberts' life for us with more on this story. what's happening? >> we should die that the ceremony of guard is posting it's all here in the driveway of the white house because the spanish prime minister wi

graham/cassidy bill is great.e house is hoping senator graham's close relationship will help get it passed. >>> blue cross blue shield, american medical associations, among the latest groups to reject the bill, the very group that is provide headache and represeand -- check out this comment he said i could maybe give you ten reason why is this bill shouldn't be considered. but republicans campaigned on this so often, that you have a responsibility to carry out what you said in the campaign. that's pretty much as much of a reason as the substance of the bill. cnn's phil mattingly has more from capitol hill. >> reporter: here's what we know just nine days out now from when senator republicans have to pass a health care bill if they want to do it with a majority vote. they don't have the votes yet. but that doesn't mean they're not optimistic. take a listen to what senator lindsay graham said. >> we're at a point where we're going to take the bill up. to my republican colleagues if you have a better idea -- >> mitch

>> no, no, it's graham/cassidy. >> jimmy: which sounds like a fox news anchor, graham cassidy. >> ituth they use last names as first names. >> jimmy: yes, right, exactly. >> they do. but the stakes here are so high. for example, pre-existing conditions. you mentioned this in your monologue. >> jimmy: right. >> right now you cannot be -- you're protected if you have a pre-existing condition, you can't be prejudiced against. you have a c health benefits. like hospitalization and prescription drugs and mental health, et cetera. you have -- you can't have lifetime limits. before obamacare they used to have lifetime limits and you could go through your cap, they'd have these caps, then no more. >> jimmy: and that is so crazy if you think about it. >> well, it was so terrible for kids like -- >> jimmy: like my son. >> like your son billy, whose dad isn't cashing, you know, old man show checks. >> jimmy: right, right. [ laughter ] >> you know? >> jimmy: by the way, we're working on "the old man show" right now. >> right, that's right. >> jimmy: yeah, because he could potentially, at like --

the reality is graham-cassidy, and we hope another proposal doesn't come forward like graham-cassidy, we know that they buried that today, would turn back the clock in indian country taking this back to the days of life and limb. i want to thank senator cortez mastro for her great advocacy for native americans. i know very well her work as state attorney general. i know she worked with tribes, wanted to work through problems rather than litigating them all the time. i just wanted to say to your chairwoman there in nevada that we really appreciate her hard work on behalf of her tribal members and other tribes around the country. i would yield to the senator from nevada. ms. cortez masto: thank you, mr. it is true that indian country made significant gains under the affordable care act. before the a.c.a., indian health services regularly denied tribal members for claims for basic cares like mammograms, health screenings, or diabetes care. because of the chaos that the trump administration has, this has gotten worse many insurers are pulling out of a.c.a. exchanges thanks to the uncertai

under graham listen cassidy, more people will have coverage.e with pre-existing conditions. maine, florida, missouri, billions more dollars to provide health insurance coverage for those in those states who have been passed by by obamacare and we protect those with pre-existing conditions >> governor, you can't both be right. how can he say you, virginia, are going to get billions more dollars and you say you are going to lose billions of dollars. >> alyson, you can say whatever you want if you don't believe in the truth and facts don't matter. >> hold on. you think that senator cassidy is lying? >> absolutely dead wrong. why his governor, who has to run these programs. i remind you that we the governors run these programs in our states. his own governor signed that letter, by part sap letter. we had an original with 10 governors, five and five, two more have come out against it. why is it these republican governors. let the facts speak as they are. don't rely on me. look at the ama, blue cross/blue shield, look at the experts in the health car

hopefully, that will continue grandma-cassidy doesn't work. -- graham-cassidy doesn't work. do you have any doubts on the debt ceiling? rep. pelosi: no. my d say that -- why do you say that? >> that this would come down to a deadline. now they have two weeks to talk about -- rep. pelosi: it's not even related. that gives us the opening. it isn't that at all. months coincides with the three month of the cr. it would have been september 30. now it's a soon as we can get it done, maybe it's october, maybe it's november, but looking to the middle of december. no, no, not at all. did ayou think sanders mistake by doing medicare for all? it gives motivation for them to do their own bill. rep. pelosi: everything has to be on the table if you're talking about expanding access to a formal health care. that's the goal. to grow the number of people who are covered. senatorsomething that sanders is putting on the table. same thing with the public option, which we had in the house bill, which is something we should try to strive to get to. but none of it works if you don't have the votes

but the battle is a face-off between jimmy kimmel and senator bob cassidy. puerto rico drowning in catastrophic harvey-like flooding from hurricane maria. we'll show you some of the first images from this battle island -- battered island. let's get right to the latest on the senate's healthcare hail mary. phil mattingly has that for us. >> as the senate plows toward a vote to repeal obamacare, president trump is unequivocal tweeting, i would not sign graham/cassidy. it did not include coverage of pre-existing conditions. it does. >> more people would have coverage and we protect those with pre-existing conditions. >> reporter: trump's defensiveness over the issue is understandable. the issue of whether the gop proposal maintains protections for all has been a central and toxic piece of the repeal debate for months. and one that has been magnified exponentially by, of all people, a late-night talk show host on a two-night attack. >> so last night on our show, i -- a senator from louisiana, bill cassidy. i took him to task for promising to my face that he woul

if you look at the cassidy-graham bill.it says about pre-existing conditions is we have no requirement -- it devolves to the state. the state has to assure it but they will have some position but given the amount of funding, there's no guarantee that in fact people with pre-existing conditions will be covered. and there is a cap with medicaid spending. there's no debate here. >> brian: there is a demand to cover pre-existing conditions with the money required the ghost of the state and it says it has to be -- >> juan: no, it says that they can describe -- >> brian: senator graham lied? >> juan: somebody's lying. at the state level, you can set the price for coverage of pre-existing conditions and obviously that can be beyond the means of people who have these conditions. that's different than obamacare. this to me is again, all about republicans saying we need a victory. we know we are getting hammered by the base for not doing it because as kimberly pointed out, got the house and the senate. why do we get rid of it? you gu

is a bipartisan approach the next approach if graham/cassidy fails?ent is always willing to work on a bipartisan basis. as you know, we had an important meeting in the oval office where the president cut a deal right after the hurricanes. i think we have -- i know we have a meeting on taxes at the white house on tuesday, with republicans and democrats from the ways and means part. i think, unfortunately, the democrats on health care have put very high demands on -- they don't want to change many aspects of obamacare. but to the extent they're willing to come to the table and fix it, i think that's the -- the president would always listen to. we're about fixing obamacare. it's broken and it requires people to do lots of things that they just shouldn't be forced to do. >> let's turn to the president's tax agenda. the president expected to roll out a tax plan on wednesday. axios is reporting that the plan would cut the tax rate paid by the wealthy neramericans from almost 40 act to 35% as well as making dramatic reductions on taxes to big businesses and

this guy, bill cassidy lied to my face. eyes on possible gopouts like lisa murkowski. >> alaska's governor doesn't like your plan. he wants you to go to a burn bipartisan approach. >> there is zero possibility. in a bipartisan manner to replace obamacare. >> president trump at the u.n. told his party to pass the plan oval office, silt down at my desk. there would be a health care bill on my desk to be honest. >> senate rules give republicans until next saturday to pass the health care bill with a simple majority. that's why this plan, is suddenly on the fast track. anthony, with no time for the congressional budget office to determine how many people might lose coverage. >> moving overseas, the investigation of the london terror bombing has revealed a disturbing fact. just how easy it is to buy bomb components on line. mark fiphillips reports. >> reporter: the main explosive in the london subway bombing didn't go off. building a bomb is complicated. an investigation revealed, getting ingredients needed to make a simple bomb

it now lives u $under the name of cassidy-graham. guess what? it is another bill that would drastically cut back on health care funding for americans who need it most. so my colleagues, my fellow americans, this is a red alert moment for the entire country. our health care system again is threatened by a hastily constructed piece of legislation put together in a back room by only one party, no c.b.o. score, not a single hearing, totally -- everyone is totally in the dark about the effects of this bill. and yet there is an effort to rush it forward. this frankenstein monster of a bill that would so harm so many americans just keeps coming back and back and back. and somehow each time it has managed to get worse. here's what we know the new trumpcare bill would do. it would roll back protections for americans with preexisting conditions. it would allow states to impose burdensome requirements as a condition on medicaid coverage. it would defund planned parenthood, stripping millions of women of their right to access to affordable health ca care, a