and we're hearing more from a sergeant from the aurora police department, cassidy carlson and gave us more information about what we knew before we went to break we did get the confirmation that that door to james holmes' apartment was set to kill, a quote from the police officer. set to kill whoever opened it and you spoke to the lady who almost opened the door the night of this event. and cassidy carson, we've been successful in defeating the first threat and the traps were set to kill those entering first in the apartment. if that's in fact true they may have found that entry point to get bomb technicians inside to get potentially the bomb robots inside. and part of the issue, it's not just one or two bombs to kill whoever opened the door, there are a number of devices intertwined with wire, bottles they say the size of coke bottles filled with a liquid that looks like water and we don't know what it is, balloons with powder inside, potentially gun powder and bullets laying around and other pieces of stuff, basically, that could become schrapnel if this was to go up. so this apartm

cassidy carlson, an aurora police sergeant said, this is some serious stuff that our team is dealingith. the booby trap was set to kill the person opening the door. your thoughts? >> well, i haven't heard those exact words yet, so that takes me back a little bit. that's, that's scary, i mean, what else can you say about that. >> jon: thanking your lucky stars you didn't open that door open an inch or two like you were thinking of doing. >> thanking my lucky stars and god at the same time. >> jon: i can't imagine, you said there was something telling you not to open that door as much as you might have wanted to. >> yeah, as chris warned me not to go up there the first place because of how odd it was, just the situation in general and i think what am i going to find behind this door, do i want to be the witness to that? and it stopped me and i said i'll let the police handle this. >> jon: chris, you didn't want her going up there. >> no, a gut feeling. the first instinct, i heard the music and kept playing, my first instinct. better call the nonemergency number and get the police out h

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