another caller mentioned the two cassius clays. i'm curious as to whether it is known whether or not henry clay or any of the household members or immediate family members had any known -- like jefferson. third question, politicians often have political or aristocratic lineage. i'm curious to know if it is known -- any other prominent politicians share henry clay's lineage. now i'm out of your way. thank you. >> before you go, have you been here? to the house? we lost her. she lives so close by. abolitionists and whether or not his position changed or posturing. >> i think it would be wrong to call henry clay an abolitionist. he was definitely not an abolitionist. he was for the idea of emancipation. and no, he never changed his position on that. and as we discussed earlier, especially in the election of 1840, it hurts him. the fact that he does -- tries to waffle. but, no, he never backs away from his idea of emancipation. >> cassius clay. >> 1799, clay speaks out the first time publicly in kentucky against slavery. letter to the l

cassius clay. >> usually, when an athlete gets a reputation, it sticks with him, even when he is an old man. it has changed completely with clay, and, of course, when he became ali, it was something to many people, and now he is beloved. at the vietnam monument, you know, with the possible exception of james fonda, no one was more distinguished in opposition to the war. tavis: fonda, ali, and king. >> he was having his picture taken there, and i thought when people were coming toward him, he would have a problem, but instead of that, they in braced him, and that was der. -- they embraced him. tavis: why is that? sympathy? empathy? >> some of that and the fact that he stood up for what he believed in. at the time, it was very visceral, and people could not tolerate that, but overtime, i think they came to think, well -- but, over time, i think they came to, well, accept that. his beliefs. tavis: ali and howard cosell together. near the end of his life. i will let you tell the story. it is a powerful story. >> a lot of people think they did not like each other, that they were just using e

maybe jim knows better than i, but i don't think there was a real family connection with cassius marcellus clay. >> i did some research on that once. the man known as muhammad ali was originally cassius marcellus clay. he was named for the abolitionist leader. but his family that he came from was from western kentucky. they just took that name because the distant cousin of henry clay was an abolitionist, anti-slavery man, certainly. they thought that was a good name to take when they had freedom. >> the election of 1840, henry clay tries once again for his wigs party nomination. he was defeated in that quest by whom? >> harrison. >> he turned around and offered clay? >> i'm not sure he offered him the vice president. >> why did he offer him his choice of cabinet position? >> they'd been rivals. here's another general, a man who said he hadn't voted for 30 years when he was seeking the presidency. he had some positions in indiana territory and other places. had some history of accomplishments, but not a great deal. clay is expecting to get the -- it's a time when the wigs think they're going to

maybe jim snow knows better than i, but i don't think there was a real family connection with cassius marcellus clay. >> george edgar did a story in the paper once. i did some research on that. the man known as muhammad ali was originally cassius marcellus clay, was named for the abolitionist leader, but his family that he came from was from western kentucky. they just took that name because a distant cousin of henry clay, an abolitionist, an anti-slavery man certainly. they thought that was a good name to take when they had freedom. >> the election of 1840, henry clay tries once again for his wig party nomination. he was defeated in that quest by whom? >> harrison turned around and offered clay vice presidential spot? >> i'm not sure he offered him the vice president. offered hip a cab innocent position. >> i'm thinking here is this chance to get that close because of the way fate played with the harrison president. >> why did he offer him his choice of cabinetry? >> they had been rivals. here is another general, a man who said he hadn't voted for 30 years. when he was seeking the presidency. he ha

understanding and maybe jim knows better inbut i don't think there was a real family connection with cassius marcellus clay. i did some research on that. the man known as muhammad ali was originally cassius marcellus clay. he was named for the abolitionist leader. but -- his family that he came from was from western kentucky. they just took that name because distant cousin of henry clay, abolitionist man, in the a slavery man certainly. they thought that was a good name to take when they had freedom. >> the election of 1840, 4e7bry clay tries once gore for his nomination. he was defeated by woman? >> hair son harrison turned around and offered clay, vice president at spot? >> i'm not sure he offered him the vice president. offered him a choyfs cabinet positions. >> i'm thinking here is this chance to get that close because of the way fate played with the harrison president. >> i -- >> what did he offer? >> they had been rivals. here is another general, a man who said he hadn't voted for 30 years. when he was seeking the presidency. he had positions in indiana territory and other places, some history of acc

drafted then under his birth name of cassius clay, muhammad ali stood on principle and refused inductionme then punishable by five years in prison and a $10,000 fine. muhammad ali was convicted of that crime and was spared a prison sentence pending the appeal of his case, which he eventually won in the united states supreme court. muhammad ali's stance against the draft was a principled stance. it was logically and morally aligned with his principled opposition to the vietnam war. muhammad ali said, i ain't got no quarrel with them viet cong. muhammad ali was right, america didn't have a quarrel there. muhammad ali was smarter than the president of the united states, muhammad ali was smarter about vietnam than henry kissinger who had tricked a gullible news media into thinking he was a genius, and muhammad ali was brave enough to face the consequences of his principled stance. he was willing to lose income, to lose his boxing career, to lose his freedom, to go to prison for his beliefs as were many other brave and principled young men of that era. mitt romney on the other hand effortless