as were castro khadafi and arafat again you know western perceptions here i'm sure that's not being focused very much on c.n.n. and b.b.c. you know because he's supposed to be with the spice girls and he supposed to be with rock stars where that was wonderful church city was wearing which were wonderful but this is again this kind of spinning mandela to the way we want to see him go ahead jeremy. well i think i'll just go back to point out like to make here we've been talking mostly about the economy and the redistribution and so on and so forth and not a huge amount of change there at the macro level i think when it comes to mind i really don't think mandela himself had a great deal to do with economic policy in the period when he was president he was much more concerned with what i think he would regard as sort of higher things and that is basically trying to stave off the violence that i think almost everybody thought would would would be characteristic of whatever sort of transition took place in south africa and i think without sort of being haiti a graphic i think his great legacy is

fidel castro, khadafy there. from all over the world. women. after the ceremony, i remember i lingered. i picked this up. this was given out to the v.i.p.s. this was in the front row. i picked up three that people left behind. it's the day of stamp. a special stamp for president mandela and remember, this was a new country, a new national anthem and flag. special stamps for that as well. we scooped up a couple of these. they were left by the guests. i walked back to the hotel and you walked down a hill and there were parklands and there are poor people and you're going through, never ever have i seen such tears of joy. the people who had nothing, absolutely nothing, suddenly had everything. >> can i add to that? >> please. >> i was there with the first lady hillary clinton and as the president stood on center stage, next to him was the warden, the prison guard that he had forgiven after 27 years incarcera incarcerated. and as he stood there, the air blackened with the south african air force zooming over him. and i saw for the first time